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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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Construction will be the first restriction lifted but with strict controls maybe mandatory wearing of masks.

Jenbach110

Cupatae wrote: »

Glad you seen the light, maybe when we stay at home and have a smaller more manageable amount of cases we can implement your testing on a smaller pool.

What pool?

How will that work for asymptomatic cases?

easypazz

Jenbach110 wrote: »

Have restrictions on large sports events ever occured before?

Foot & mouth?

BanditLuke

GazzaL wrote: »

If they don't, people will start to break.

People won't "break". The human species is able to endure a hell of a lot and has before. People are being literally asked to stay home watching TV, spending time with their families, eating, going for walks, reading books etc..

It's hardly the fcuking blitz now is it?

Spencer Brown

alwald wrote: »

Brazil likely has 12 times more cases of the coronavirus than are being officially reported by the government, with too little testing and long waits to confirm the results, according to a study released today.
Taken from RTE and the same likely applies to a lot of other countries.
People there will murder for a lockdown with 350 EUR weekly.

And we'd murder for a bit of sun. In all seriousness why are you comparing Ireland to a developing country?

BanditLuke

easypazz wrote: »

I expect them to start announcing what restrictions will be lifted on May 5th well before that date.

Maybe starting next week.

You expect incorrectly

Cupatae

BanditLuke wrote: »

People won't "break". The human species is able to endure a hell of a lot and has before. People are being literally asked to stay home watching TV, spending time with their families, eating, going for walks, reading books etc..

It's hardly the fcuking blitz now is it?

If only you knew the can of worms you ve opened

:D wait till the pity party arrive! :pac:

FloatingVoter

BanditLuke wrote: »

People won't "break". The human species is able to endure a hell of a lot and has before. People are being literally asked to stay home watching TV, spending time with their families, eating, going for walks, reading books etc..

It's hardly the fcuking blitz now is it?

Yes, when they start dropping bombs on us I might get a bit upset.

Jenbach110

easypazz wrote: »

Foot & mouth?

Interestly enough the models used in the UK for the cull of millions of animals was grossly flawed and it was later found the cull was mostly unnecessary.

Just an example of an issue with those models

KiKi III

mariaalice wrote: »

Construction will be the first restriction lifted but with strict controls maybe mandatory wearing of masks.

Agreed. They’ll also have their temperature taken when they arrive on site, which was happening for the couple of weeks before lockdown.

GazzaL

BanditLuke wrote: »

People won't "break". The human species is able to endure a hell of a lot and has before. People are being literally asked to stay home watching TV, spending time with their families, eating, going for walks, reading books etc..

It's hardly the fcuking blitz now is it?

Some people would almost rather it was the Blitz, it's not in most human's nature to sit idle and do nothing. And many people can't see their families because they're not allowed to travel more than 2km from their residence. The longer the lockdown goes on, the more people will dodge the restrictions, similar to Prohibition. Some of you mightn't like that, but that's reality.

BanditLuke

Cupatae wrote: »

If only you knew the can of worms you ve opened :D wait till the pity party arrive! :pac:

I'm not trying to open anything. I find it ridiculous people are moaning about staying at home and making an effort for Ireland. We don't know how good we have it here in this country. People just love to have a moan about the gubberment i guess.

BanditLuke

GazzaL wrote: »

Some people would almost rather it was the Blitz, it's not in most human's nature to sit idle and do nothing. And many people can't see their families because they're not allowed to travel more than 2km from their residence. The longer the lockdown goes on, the more people will dodge the restrictions, similar to Prohibition.

Who'd rather it was the blitz? You are comparing an actual war to a very lax lockdown.

Professor Moriarty

GazzaL wrote: »

Some people would almost rather it was the Blitz, it's not in most human's nature to sit idle and do nothing. And many people can't see their families because they're not allowed to travel more than 2km from their residence. The longer the lockdown goes on, the more people will dodge the restrictions, similar to Prohibition. Some of you mightn't like that, but that's reality.

Who?

GazzaL

BanditLuke wrote: »

Who'd rather it was the blitz? You are comparing an actual war to a very lax lockdown.

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Who?

It's not in most human's nature to sit idle and do nothing. Many people can't see their families because they're not allowed to travel more than 2km from their residence. The longer the lockdown goes on, the more people will dodge the restrictions, similar to Prohibition. Some of you mightn't like that, but that's reality.

easypazz

BanditLuke wrote: »

You expect incorrectly

Ah yes, Mr. Lockdown forever is in the house to spread doom and negativity.

Some restrictions will be eased May 5th, unless the numbers go horribly wrong.

And the government will start indicating what those easings will be in advance.

Suck it up.

Professor Moriarty

GazzaL wrote: »

It's not in most human's nature to sit idle and do nothing. Many people can't see their families because they're not allowed to travel more than 2km from their residence. The longer the lockdown goes on, the more people will dodge the restrictions, similar to Prohibition. Some of you mightn't like that, but that's reality.

You're comparing a pandemic to a ban on alcohol in the USA in the 20s and 30s? Interesting. Could you elaborate?

BanditLuke

GazzaL wrote: »

It's not in most human's nature to sit idle and do nothing. Many people can't see their families because they're not allowed to travel more than 2km from their residence. The longer the lockdown goes on, the more people will dodge the restrictions, similar to Prohibition. Some of you mightn't like that, but that's reality.

No you where asked who?

easypazz

GazzaL wrote: »

It's not in most human's nature to sit idle and do nothing. Many people can't see their families because they're not allowed to travel more than 2km from their residence. The longer the lockdown goes on, the more people will dodge the restrictions, similar to Prohibition. Some of you mightn't like that, but that's reality.

The doom merchants want years of this.

easypazz

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

You're comparing a pandemic to a ban on alcohol in the USA in the 20s and 30s? Interesting. Could you elaborate?

Rules are made to be broken. Simples.

BanditLuke

easypazz wrote: »

Ah yes, Mr. Lockdown forever is in the house to spread doom and negativity.

Some restrictions will be eased May 5th, unless the numbers go horribly wrong.

And the government will start indicating what those easings will be in advance.

Suck it up.

Where did i say i wanted a lockdown forever?

Don't run away now like you usually do please.

Professor Moriarty

easypazz wrote: »

The doom merchants want years of this.

And the idiots think life will be the same again.

BanditLuke

easypazz wrote: »

Rules are made to be broken. Simples.

No rules are made for the common good.

Cork Boy 53

Jenbach110 wrote: »

Interestly enough the models used in the UK for the cull of millions of animals was grossly flawed and it was later found the cull was mostly unnecessary.

Just an example of an issue with those models

Billions? Around 6 million cattle and sheep were culled in the UK during the foot and mouth outbreak. It was a disaster for the British livestock industry but let`s not exaggerate the numbers.

lord quackinton

Good to see some good debate on here last few hours
As I have said previously I am still working, Own a home in rural tipp and have a few acres with it

Firstly I am not a socialist - I despise socialism
Secondly I am not a sentimental guy, many people here would probably despise me for my social conservatism
I am not a easy fella to like and I have a very bad temper and well able to back it up too

But I feel genuinely sorry for the thousands and thousands of young people who are going to lose their jobs, have pay cuts and will be taxed to pay for a lockdown they do not need
90% of those dead are over 65 , that’s a fact that cannot be just glossed over

Let those who are strong in body and in mind go back to work if they want
Those who don’t can go on benefits until the state tell them go back

Open it up and let’s get this country working again

Jenbach110

easypazz wrote: »

The doom merchants want years of this.

Its unsettling.

Is it a genuine concern for the vunerable or is it a personal fear for ones own health?

Elmer Blooker

ShineOn7 wrote: »

For those who still think the restrictions are too much

https://twitter.com/i/status/1249693986769559552

Minister for Health Simon Harris says modelling shows that if no measures were put place there would have been 120,000 news cases of Covid-19 in Ireland next Sunday

Is this for real? Where has the 120,000 figure come from?
Modelling shows! And to think we used to laugh at North Korea! :pac:

GazzaL

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

You're comparing a pandemic to a ban on alcohol in the USA in the 20s and 30s? Interesting. Could you elaborate?

When people were banned from having a beer, people dodged the restrictions, people still drank beer.

Here, people are being banned from being able to earn a living, banned from being able to see family and friends in person. Do you think people will live like that indefinitely? Or would they dodge the restrictions?

Jenbach110

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Billions? Around 6 million cattle and sheep were culled in the UK during the foot and mouth outbreak. It was a disaster for the British livestock industry but let`s not exaggerate the numbers.

10 million was the figure.

And the point was the modelling was flawed

BanditLuke

GazzaL wrote: »

When people were banned from having a beer, people dodged the restrictions, people still drank beer.

Here, people are being banned from being able to earn a living, banned from being able to see family and friends in person. Do you think people will live like that indefinitely? Or would they dodge the restrictions?

Have you got an answer about the Blitz? You said some people would rather it was the Blitz, what people?