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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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Cupatae

Downlinz wrote: »

I mean, this is a pandemic. It's going to affect people's mental health negatively, it's a certainty and everyone is feeling the psychological effects.

But I think some folks are fixating on the lockdown and other safety measures as the "problem" while losing sight on what their life would be like without them.

Couldnt agree more, for some the lockdown is the ultimate enemy not the pandemic.

Jenbach110

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Social distancing was big in 1918? Are you serious? There was a World War on and not only was there no social distancing but the deadly 'Spanish' flu was kept from the public as strict war time censorship was in operation.
Do you think the authorities were going to shut down the munitions factories?

I can see no evidence of any restrictions due to the Spanish flu or TB outbreak.
I can see no evidence of protection of vunerable citizens.
Dance halls and pubs remained opened, All Irelands continued.

Huntergonzo

Gael23 wrote: »

Agreed, it’s putting a wedge between families and that can’t go on any longer than May 5th

I actually had some family over for dinner yesterday (not a huge gathering, 5 of us in total) and it quite surreal/funny.

My sister is a nurse and didn't want to take any chances so she sat out in the hall shouting in at us. Any time she annoyed us we just closed the door on her, it was great, might be an idea going forward :-)

Stheno

Ace2007 wrote: »

Do we know that it's the lab that messed up?

Could it be possible that some admin person got the lists mixed up as to who was positive and who was negative?

According to the Indo the first result was inconclusive and treated as negative and they retested and found weak positives

Total of 100 tests

BanditLuke

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I actually had some family over for dinner yesterday (not a huge gathering, 5 of us in total) and it quite surreal/funny.

My sister is a nurse and didn't want to take any chances so she sat out in the hall shouting in at us. Any time she annoyed us we just closed the door on her, it was great, might be an idea going forward :-)

Hard to fathom this type of stupidity

Ace2007

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I actually had some family over for dinner yesterday (not a huge gathering, 5 of us in total) and it quite surreal/funny.

My sister is a nurse and didn't want to take any chances so she sat out in the hall shouting in at us. Any time she annoyed us we just closed the door on her, it was great, might be an idea going forward :-)

And you are the type of **** causing so much pain in this country - sure it's only a few people over for dinner - bit of a laugh eh?

Feel sorry for your sister having you as a brother - having no respect for her on the colleagues who put their lives at risk to save people.

I don't care if i get a warning for calling you a **** - i think pretty much every poster would agree.

Gael23

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Is your family not coping or are you talking about other families you know?

I know some people I work with are struggling without grandparents to help with childcare for instance. Irish culture for generations centers around family and now that’s been broken.

Thelonious Monk

Gael23 wrote: »

I know some people I work with are struggling without grandparents to help with childcare for instance. Irish culture for generations centers around family and now that’s been broken.

Yeah well everyone's struggling, I have no idea when I'll see my family again, but we'll cope if we have to, this was never going to be easy.

Huntergonzo

Downlinz wrote: »

I mean, this is a pandemic. It's going to affect people's mental health negatively, it's a certainty and everyone is feeling the psychological effects.

But I think some folks are fixating on the lockdown and other safety measures as the "problem" while losing sight on what their life would be like without them.

The lockdown is certainly not the problem, it's a necessity, we'd be in a terrible state without it and it can't be ended until we turn the corner.

It's the side effect of the lockdown which creates a problem = isolation. This can negatively effect a lot of people, especially when there's no end in sight.

You need to give people hope, something to work towards. It may sound glib but you can even turn it into something positive, something to aim for, eg, hit a certain target and we can loosen restrictions on x.

Nermal

Downlinz wrote: »

But I think some folks are fixating on the lockdown and other safety measures as the "problem" while losing sight on what their life would be like without them.

More or less the same as it is now, just with an extra 0.25%-0.4% chance of death for the rest of the year.

That % is for the population of course. Less for some, more for others.

Jenbach110

Nermal wrote: »

More or less the same as it is now, just with an extra 0.25%-0.4% chance of death for the rest of the year.

That % is for the population of course. Less for some, more for others.

People have lost sight of this. Paralysed by fear.

Approximatley 1 in 1000 odds if you are over 65 in Italy.

Gael23

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yeah well everyone's struggling, I have no idea when I'll see my family again, but we'll cope if we have to, this was never going to be easy.

People are resilient I fully agree. But there’s s limit to that ultimately. Life does eventually need to go on

helimachoptor

Stheno wrote: »

I was due to go to one in May. It's entirely online now

I'm due to speak at one in August, so far still going ahead but expect it'll go virtual or just be cancelled.

facehugger99

Cupatae wrote: »

Couldnt agree more, for some the lockdown is the ultimate enemy not the pandemic.

For some the ending of the lockdown is the ultimate fear and not the virus.

Huntergonzo

BanditLuke wrote: »

Hard to fathom this type of stupidity

Straight to judgement eh? Suppose it's the timew we live in sadly.

Thelonious Monk

Gael23 wrote: »

People are resilient I fully agree. But there’s s limit to that ultimately. Life does eventually need to go on

I think people are underestimating people's resilience by saying things like "people wont put up with this" and people will flaunt the rules soon etc.
Irish people never really protest against anything, we did nothing over the bank bailouts etc.
I would be pretty positive about the vast majority complying with the guidelines for as long as the Gov as us to, regardless of the toll it's taking on us.

Ace2007

Huntergonzo wrote: »

It actually was a good laugh, we needed in fairness after losing our father last month.

But thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it.

Doesn't sound like your sister saw the funny part?

Thelonious Monk

Huntergonzo wrote: »

Straight to judgement eh? Suppose it's the timew we live in sadly.

He's judging you because you had a family get together when that is exactly what we shouldn't be doing as it could possibly spread the disease to each of their households and this isn't good for the slowing of the disease.
Don't post sh*t like that if you don't want to be judged for it, dead father or not.

Huntergonzo

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

He's judging you because you had a family get together when that is exactly what we shouldn't be doing as it could possibly spread the disease to each of their households and this isn't good for the slowing of the disease.
Don't post sh*t like that if you don't want to be judged for it, dead father or not.

We live beside each other, my mother looks after my nephew most days so they're in our house most days anyway.

Thelonious Monk

Huntergonzo wrote: »

We live beside each other, my mother looks after my nephew most days so they're in our house most days anyway.

This is not how you're supposed to be doing things at the moment, kids and grandparents shouldn't be seeing each other.

Nermal

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Irish people never really protest against anything, we did nothing over the bank bailouts etc.

That would have involved protest marches with the great unwashed - no thanks.

This time, all one has to do is attempt to live a normal life.

greasepalm

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I actually had some family over for dinner yesterday (not a huge gathering, 5 of us in total) and it quite surreal/funny.

My sister is a nurse and didn't want to take any chances so she sat out in the hall shouting in at us. Any time she annoyed us we just closed the door on her, it was great, might be an idea going forward :-)

I can read it another way as giving the nurse a break from all the turmoil if working in a hospital and would expect they need to raise their spirits up by any means.Social distance and would expect protocol to be followed.:):)

s1ippy

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I actually had some family over for dinner yesterday (not a huge gathering, 5 of us in total) and it quite surreal/funny.

My sister is a nurse and didn't want to take any chances so she sat out in the hall shouting in at us. Any time she annoyed us we just closed the door on her, it was great, might be an idea going forward :-)

Idiot.

Huntergonzo wrote: »

We live beside each other, my mother looks after my nephew most days so they're in our house most days anyway.

Does your sister who is a nurse regularly go into different houses as well? She's being completely irresponsible, however small you may write the chance off as being.

Imagine if every household in the country who has a frontline worker in it met up for an Easter dinner. Our health service would undoubtedly be crippled. The best you can hope for is that you don't start showing symptoms in the next two weeks.

Ace2007

greasepalm wrote: »

I can read it another way as giving the nurse a break from all the turmoil if working in a hospital and would expect they need to raise their spirits up by any means.Social distance and would expect protocol to be followed.:):)

If the poster put up on FB or twitter and his sister could be identifiable - the HSE would force her to stay off work for 2 weeks - that's how serious this issue is...

Part of me thinks that the poster didn't actually do that and is just trying to wind people up.

Cupatae

facehugger99 wrote: »

For some the ending of the lockdown is the ultimate fear and not the virus.

Some just simply understand its a necessary evil and get on with it instead of crying for it to end.

I mean realistically economics aside, its 5 weeks of lazying about doing whatever you like, its hardly ww1 going over the trench but talkin to some you d wonder will they make it..

Cupatae

Ace2007 wrote: »

If the poster put up on FB or twitter and his sister could be identifiable - the HSE would force her to stay off work for 2 weeks - that's how serious this issue is...

Part of me thinks that the poster didn't actually do that and is just trying to wind people up.

Death toll in the UK at 11k, meanwhile you ve clowns like that, hopefully it is a wind up.

citysights

bmc58 wrote: »

Cervical Cancer tests revisited.Who are the idiot labs the government are paying to conduct these tests?

I do not know but these things should not be happening. Yes echos of cervical cancer tests

martingriff

Huntergonzo wrote: »

I actually had some family over for dinner yesterday (not a huge gathering, 5 of us in total) and it quite surreal/funny.

My sister is a nurse and didn't want to take any chances so she sat out in the hall shouting in at us. Any time she annoyed us we just closed the door on her, it was great, might be an idea going forward :-)

Your get together might have happened but that last bit do not believe it for a bit. You and your family can't be that removed or oblivious to what your sister goes through day in day out.

If you are she need to move out and get somewhere that she is respected

Huntergonzo

greasepalm wrote: »

I can read it another way as giving the nurse a break from all the turmoil if working in a hospital and would expect they need to raise their spirits up by any means.Social distance and would expect protocol to be followed.:):)

To be honest my mother in particular wanted to do something as we couldn't have a months mind naturally.

It was nice to get together but again, we see each other most days anyway and social distancing rules were respected.

You'd have to laugh at the extraordinary lack of empathy here on boards though, you'd really wonder about these people sometimes.

martingriff

citysights wrote: »

I do not know but these things should not be happening. Yes echos of cervical cancer tests

Weren't the cervical test done by some American lab