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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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GazzaL

KiKi III wrote: »

When were you elected spokesperson for the vast majority of people?

Most people I know are happy enough to continue up to May 5 and see where we are then.

They finished counting the votes this morning, elected on the first count. Keep an eye on the news later on.

You should get out more and talk to more people.

road_high

GazzaL wrote: »

The vast majority of people want a return to normality. We can't keep locked down for eternity to pander to a small but vocal minority of whingers.

Hear hear. If they want to lockdown indefinitely themselves- no one is stopping anybody from doing that. Ease the restrictions gradually and let the rest of us get on with life

seamusk84

KiKi III wrote: »

Socialising this summer will look like a barbeque and a few beers with a few of your friends out the back, or a picnic with a smallish group in the park - not packed pubs, festivals etc.

So depressing....I love my weekend afternoon pint. God, between not seeing my friends and family, having to work from home in isolation and the pubs and restaurants closed all summer this is becoming hell.

scamalert

alwald wrote: »

Hate to break it to you too, but the rules, laws and restrictions placed by the government take over what some people want or can accept and they apply to all of us regardless if we agree or not.

sorry but i dont share your demented views.

Deeper Blue

Ned Led Zeppo wrote: »

All mouth and no trousers.Prove that it's drivel.Perhaps one of your supporters
can give you a clue.;)

You posted nonsense and got called out on it.
Take it on the chin and move on.

KiKi III

GazzaL wrote: »

The vast majority of people want a return to normality. We can't keep locked down for eternity to pander to a small but vocal minority of whingers.

When were you elected spokesperson for the vast majority of people?

Most people I know are happy enough to continue up to May 5 and see where we are then.

GazzaL

The vast majority of people want a return to normality. We can't keep locked down for eternity to pander to a small but vocal minority of whingers.

paw patrol

Downlinz wrote: »

The lockdown merely enforced the will of the vast majority by restricting the minority who still wanted to go to pubs, betting shops, foreign holidays etc.

etc...etc..
There's literally no benefit to this other than keeping a minority of whingers satisfied, that's it.

that time has passed - lives need to move on.
we could have gotten by on some behavioural changes , work from home if possible etc...

but now our lives are being impacted a lot more than the supposed benefits.

Ive gone through this in my 2 posts. I can't say anymore.
we disagree that's fine but I'm not alone in my opinion

KiKi III

kwestfan08 wrote: »

Hopefully the need for such draconian measures wont be needed by say July when the curve is hopefully flattened.

I realise that from time to time temporary lockdowns may need to happen but living with the virus will become the norm and I could see groups of less than 50 being permitted.

Yeah, it might start at 10 or 20 and be gradually increased to 50 if there is no major spike.

greasepalm

Just reading from USA expect 18 months of lock down be all mad and god knows what could or might happen in a long time in isolation.

kwestfan08

alwald wrote: »

There will also be prison sentences and hefty fines. The government is changing its approach based on the compliance of the general public. First they asked people nicely to stay at home but some idiots went drinking in temple bar or queued for a fish and chips in Howth. This led to stronger restrictions and enforcement by Garda...the next step is going to be like France as in curfews will be put in place and you can only go out if you have a signed document.

Hopefully the need for such draconian measures wont be needed by say July when the curve is hopefully flattened.

I realise that from time to time temporary lockdowns may need to happen but living with the virus will become the norm and I could see groups of less than 50 being permitted.

STB.

VonLuck wrote: »

Case numbers are irrelevant and I wish people would stop referring to them. It's related to the extent of testing in each country, and even then there could be 10 times as many cases that have gone untested.

Case numbers are not irrelevant.

They are an indicator of the level of contagion out there. Combined with swift isolation, hospitalisation, contact tracing, that's how you combat it, so that you don't get surprised at ICU level. You cannot do it blindfolded.

VonLuck wrote: »

I'm surprised that they are inferring that there will be long-term working from home for the population as a whole. I would have thought that the restrictions would be relaxed somewhat and whilst everyone is encouraged to work from home that there would be no legal requirement for non-essential workers, similar to the earlier restrictions.

We are at least two months away from any such considerations.

You must have missed Taoiseach's statement yesterday "that Ireland will face some of its darkest days in the weeks ahead as a result of the coronavirus pandemic"

JRant

happydude742 wrote: »

ASTI were already raising concerns about the prospect of teachers being back to supervise exams in late July.

What's their issue with having to supervise exams in late July?

easypazz

Jet 2 plan to restart flights from 17th June.

the kelt

scamalert wrote: »

hate to break it to you bur were going back to reality not insanity, most people i see outside everyday seem not as hysteric as some posters here, as they live pretty much normal lives with some adjustments, wont take long and many will accept reality is to live alongside virus and small chance of getting it will be the norm.

This is the thing, the same people who are saying we should listen to experts etc think that the only reason the current lock down in place is there is because a few people went drinking in temple bar or for fish and chips in howth.

So said same people saying listen to what your told to do, do you think that decisions for what we should do are decided by the actions of a small minority!!

We aren’t on lock down because a pub was packed in temple bar with what was mainly at the time English stag parties, believe it or not there is a more balanced realistic and scientific approach to this.

Everyone understands that but there does seem to be an element of an hysterical group of people who look at the situation of lockdown being somebody’s or some groups fault directly which then leads to hysteria at someone straying 2.5 Kms from their house on a jog with remarks like, “the longer people don’t comply the longer we are in lock down etc”

This idea that we are only on lock down because of a minority of idiots is itself idiotic.

Cork Boy 53

pgj2015 wrote: »

if. there are illegal raves on every weekend in Ireland. the guards almost never find out.

Things have radically changed since this virus appeared. What used to be regarded as just antisocial behaviour is now literally a threat to life. The Gardaí have the power to strictly enforce the rules and need to do so.

alwald

scamalert wrote: »

hate to break it to you bur were going back to reality not insanity, most people i see outside everyday seem not as hysteric as some posters here, as they live pretty much normal lives with some adjustments, wont take long and many will accept reality is to live alongside virus and small chance of getting it will be the norm.

Hate to break it to you too, but the rules, laws and restrictions placed by the government take over what some people want or can accept and they apply to all of us regardless if we agree or not.

GooglePlus

Spencer Brown wrote: »

That's great to hear, the lack of face to face social interaction must be damaging my emotional intelligence.

Have you checked your vents and chimney?

Cork Boy 53

trapp wrote: »

I know of a few house parties that took place at the weekend.

Completely selfish behaviour and not acceptable.

But thankfully we're not in a country where people can be jailed for such things.

That would be worse.

We soon might be if muppets continue to ignore the current restrictions.

VonLuck

STB. wrote: »

You haven't been paying attention to the figures then. We have went from 40 to just under 10,000 cases in a month with a limited testing regime.

There is a degree of crowd control going on with these soundbites. If they are upfront there might be anarchy so you will just have to get used to being drip fed extensions. We have one of the lowest ICU capacities in Europe and cannot take chances.

Case numbers are irrelevant and I wish people would stop referring to them. It's related to the extent of testing in each country, and even then there could be 10 times as many cases that have gone untested.

I'm surprised that they are inferring that there will be long-term working from home for the population as a whole. I would have thought that the restrictions would be relaxed somewhat and whilst everyone is encouraged to work from home that there would be no legal requirement for non-essential workers, similar to the earlier restrictions.

alwald

Stateofyou wrote: »

Don't waste your breath, you can't tell some people anything. They feel entitled, sacrifices aren't for them, and if it's hard then "boo hoo" on complying with anything that helps anyone else and the wider society. It's depressing seeing such attitudes. This isn't the hardest thing we could go through. Refugees living in dangerous and poverty conditions in camps or surrounded by bombs and violence with the threat of harm and death all around them have shown through better spirit. Today after reading this thread I feel utterly disgusted.

I totally agree with you as other countries, less fortunate than Ireland/Europe, are going through a severe lockdown with no social welfare, very little to eat as well as almost no capacity in their hospitals to deal with a pandemic.
In Ireland social welfare was increased, ICU capacity increased, exercising is allowed and basically a wide range of other measures put in place for our own safety and well-being and yet people are selfish.

Spencer Brown

KiKi III wrote: »

I'm not angry at all, but thank you for your concern

That's great to hear, the lack of face to face social interaction must be damaging my emotional intelligence.

niallo27

c montgomery wrote: »

I work in clinical trials and testing.
Yes to all other questions.

People who are more invested than I in vaccine research/development which I have read all say it's is 5-10 years away.

Look at malaria, kills hundreds of thousands every year, has billions invested in it and the vaccine is ineffective largely.

How can you compare malaria to this, malaria is parasitic plus it doesnt kill people in first world countries.

KiKi III

Spencer Brown wrote: »

KiKi you seem really angry, a break from Boards might be good for you.

I'm not angry at all, but thank you for your concern

c montgomery

Eod100 wrote: »

I'm not sure why the 12 to 18 months was mentioned so much. Only gives false hope. Saw earlier it could be within 3 years but even that sees optimistic in that case so?

I honestly think it's due to optimism and wishing for the best.
I heard a university professor on a podcast recently saying he could have a vaccine ready tomorrow that would kill the virus but that it's potential impact to the patient would be unknown. Only by years of robust peer reviewed testing could you determine it effects on humans.

robinph

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

Irish times saying offices may stay shut for months with working from home staying until then. I think that the government should be more open and not drip feed this.

If companies IT staff haven't already been dealing with getting their infrastructure setup for home working then they should be getting sent in to deal with that kind of stuff already. No reason for office based jobs to be shut down totally at the moment. Maybe it takes a while before all types of work can be figured out how to do it remotely, or what roles need to take it in turns to go into the office on designated days to do something that needs doing in person. But if the companies haven't already figured this kind of stuff out then they are the companies that are going under.

STB.

scamalert wrote: »

hate to break it to you bur were going back to reality not insanity, most people i see outside everyday seem not as hysteric as some posters here, as they live pretty much normal lives with some adjustments, wont take long and many will accept reality is to live alongside virus and small chance of getting it will be the norm.

That's not the point. The point is it is highly contagious and social interactions accelerate it.

We have limited health care infrastructure in Ireland and cannot afford mass breakouts or contagion.

Hate to break it to you, but we are not in a position to live alongside a mass pandemic, for the most obvious of reasons.

KiKi III

niallo27 wrote: »

Ya and he said realistically there is an 80% chance of it being developed so stop being so negative. It's not healthy, is there any bit of optimism in you.

I've posted positive news on here regularly when it's backed by data.

Don't get mad at me because I'm not willing to delude myself on a similar scale to you.

alwald

pgj2015 wrote: »

we are a long way off curfews and prison sentences. people are getting 3 warnings as it is. thats not very tough is it?

My reply is directed to a specific post with a specific situation and shouldn't be taken out of context.

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channelsurfer2 wrote: »

Irish times saying offices may stay shut for months with working from home staying until then. I think that the government should be more open and not drip feed this.

I think that most office workers are expecting to be working from home until September. There’s relatively little economic cost to that, compared to retail, construction, factories, home improvement tradespeople etc, so makes sense to keep WFH in place. I think that some common sense would go a long way, rather than have to be told every little thing by the government