carolmon wrote: » Just to be clear I'm not begrudging the elderly couple their celebration... I was just confused about the restrictions after I saw rte report it as a good news story. I then thought maybe we are allowed to call to a friend's garden once we don't go inside (I was hoping as it's very tough doing this totally alone)
VonLuck wrote: » I was just reading an Irish Times article where they said that smaller construction sites may also re-open although offices would remain closed for “many months more”, with working from home to remain in place “for the foreseeable future”. Slightly surprised that the government is already saying this before the end of this additional 3 week period.
MadYaker wrote: » Go look at what they are doing in South Korea and Taiwan. That’s the road map we need to follow. Saying there’ll be no vaccine or cure is a fantasy and if you want to engage in fantasies I won’t stop you.
Ace2007 wrote: » Society will be redesigned after this - there is no question about it. People and companies will act differently - no longer will you be going to work with the cold or bad cough - If nothing else, health and safety along with insurance won't allow it. Just like nowadays, if you have sick cert from a doctor, your not insured to be in the work environment - just depends on your sector if it's enforced. Office companies can no longer turn around and say that they can't support wfh when 99% of their current workforce are doing just that for weeks on end.
JRant wrote: » If you think you need to call over to someone and have a chat from 2+ meters away then go for it. Helping your mental health is just as important as your physical health. Also, don't be listening to the jobsworths telling you it's breaking the rules. We have evolved as a social creature for hundreds of thousands of years. A dictate from Leo and Co a week or two ago is not going to override that basic human need to actually see and talk to people.
screamer wrote: » It may not be what you want to hear but there may not be a cure or a vaccine. Think of all the diseases that we currently cannot cure not prevent. We all hope for a cure and vaccine for this virus but time will be the only thing to judge whether we manage it or not.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » I keep reading sentiments like this and I just can't see it happening. There won't be any great awakening out of this. I fully expect life to resume in the same way as it was 6 months ago after this is all over.
Stateofyou wrote: » It's not responsible though is it, when it's breaking the restrictions that are there for all of us, designed for us to work together in a common goal to reduce transmission. Boo hoo? Wow. Suppose hundreds of thousands woke up tomorrow with that attitude and flouted the rules, telling themselves they all have a very good reason and causing no harm. Where would we be then.
alwald wrote: » First start by dropping the patronising tone and regarding the vaccine/cure there are no fantasies but rather observations.
Ace2007 wrote: » It's not going to be over though - why do you think it will just disappear? Let's save a vaccine is found to work, between trials etc going to take min 12 months - probably 18. Then it has to be manufactured in bulk and rolled out globally - and when that happens, they wont' just have 5 million doses ready to go in Ireland - potentially another year before everyone in the world gets the vaccine - so that's basically 2.5 years away from now. We need to learn to live and get on with things with this virus, but the best way is to stay in lock down a few more weeks, until the health system can cope and we have a better understanding of how other countries who lift restrictions get on.
MadYaker wrote: » Do you understand what clinical trials for drugs are? There are numerous anti viral drugs which already existed now be tested on Coronavirus patients to see which are effective. Some have already been shown to be effective. We will have effective treatments in a few months using drugs that already existed. This is much faster than developing a vaccine which will be next year at least. These treatments combined with testing, contact tracing, social distancing and probably mandatory mask wearing is how we get out of this lockdown gradually. Can’t see all that happening in the next 3 weeks though.
niallo27 wrote: » Well you should observe that most scientists agree that there will be a vaccine, reasons for other corona vaccines not being developed was due to lack of funding as there was no commercial need for it.
trapp wrote: » Can't see that happening for some reason. Maybe at the beginning but can't picture Irish people all wearing masks rightly or wrongly!
alwald wrote: » You should also observe that scientists say that there is 80% chance of a vaccine and not 100% if you know your maths well enough.
JRant wrote: » It is responsible if you are struggling mentally and need to talk to someone. Not everyone can live like a hermit shut off from society. Also, who was it designed by? It seems that the modelling we are constantly being reminded of has to date been completely off. That doesn't surprise me in the slightest though. I deal a good bit with computer modelling and any results from them need to be taken with a massive pinch of salt. Forecasting this type of scenario with so many variables is impossible. Look at weather forecasting. Some of the most powerful computers on the planet and scientists with decades of experience can only really get to about 3 days out with any degree of certainty. After that is a craps shoot.
Stateofyou wrote: » That's the most selfish piece I've read in a while. That "dictate" is going to override actually as there is now legislation in place to enforce it. Also evolved over hundreds of thousands of years has developed a community, a society in which we must all work together to contribute our small part for each other, in lots of different ways. A global pandemic in which we're asked/required to follow rules so that we can all make it through to the best of our ability is an exceptional time. You shouldn't be openly advising people to potentially harm themselves and others.
niallo27 wrote: » In reality though only 5% of the population would need the vaccine first off. You do know jnj and regeneron are mass producing from september on their vaccine they think has the best chance.
niallo27 wrote: » Where did you see this 80% figure.
JRant wrote: » Advising people to harm themselves and others? Would you ever get over yourself with the sensationalist nonsense. The person said they were struggling and needed someone to talk to. They aren't going around licking each other's faces. And no, a dictate does not override human nature after a tiny amount of time. There are no laws preventing you from talking to others at a safe distance. Maybe the government should start building bunkers for the permanently scared and let the rest of us get on with living.
Ace2007 wrote: » September that's in 5 months time?
alwald wrote: » Google, read and analyse and you will find this information from the professor in Oxford University who is heading a UK team developing a vaccine. This is from their last updates on the vaccine.
niallo27 wrote: » I see you know your maths too.
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