iamwhoiam wrote: » There was a clip on the news of a family arriving to the parents house to celebrate their 65th Wedding Anniversary . They rang the bell then all stepped back over 2 metres to clap and chat .
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » And on the very same day Spanish authorities have announced almost 3500 new virus cases. This relaxation may not last for too long if the death toll and ICU cases spike again.
JoeA3 wrote: » It was on the news lastnight. Elderly couple in their 90’s, their 65th wedding anniversary and all their children / grandchildren were gathered outside their house. Maybe the entire extended family live within 2k... maybe not! The curtain twitchers on here aren’t happy but good luck to them I say!
paw patrol wrote: » I don't agree. We could stop road deaths by banning all cars. But we know that's not practical. That is what we are doing now. .
Blueshoe wrote: » People only want to see certain sectors opened first. Iv heard construction as one. It's sort of an experiment to see what happens to these workers while others can continue to work from home in their PJ's. The government and hse advisors will make the call as to who goes back first and when. There always has to be cannon fodder.
alwald wrote: » There is possibility that no vaccine/cure will be found for COVID-19 just like other viruses such as HIV, respiratory syncytial virus, and the cancer-causing Epstein-Barr virus to name few. The current lockdown measures are temporary and will last a while, that's certain, and I expect them to last until June. Once the measures will start to be lifted businesses/shops will open bit by bit with strict measures such as social distancing as we need to learn to live with this virus. Pubs, restaurants, hotels, gyms and a wide range of other businesses might never open again if the virus is still with us and WFH will become the norm. I see that some countries are beginning to lift some restrictions but this doesn't mean they won't bring them back if the number of infections/deaths increase again. I also noticed some "experts" here talking about immunity with certainty. To date there is no proof that a person previously infected is totally immune and we have no idea of the long term effects of this virus on the human body.
carolmon wrote: » If that's a reference to me I think it's a bit unfair... I was just asking for clarity. I had an invitation to a friend's garden yesterday which I refused because I thought it wasn't allowed so yes I was confused when I saw this on the news last night as to what was and wasn't allowed.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » As far as I am aware only one European country (Austria I think) has made mask wearing compulsory so it remains to be seen if there will be a reduction in cases due to this. If not worn and used properly masks can actually increase the risk of transmission rather than reduce it.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Have a read of the HSE consultant`s comments on the use of face masks at the beginning of this thread.https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112856017#
JoeA3 wrote: » Not in reference to you at all, I hadn’t seen your post. In my opinion people should take the restrictions as broad guidelines to follow and apply a degree of common sense to those guidelines, to suit their own circumstances. Does the 2k limit make sense to my own situation, living in a rural area, where I could walk for 5k comfortably without coming within 5 metres or another person? Of course not. So just do what feels comfortable to you in your own surroundings, within reason imo and spend less time worrying about what others are doing.
Stateofyou wrote: » Well a trip for such a celebration isn't allowed according to our own gov't, and Gardaí at check points inquiring about what their essential trip is would/should have then turned them back upon discovering if they had of been stopped. So, very irresponsible reporting.
MadYaker wrote: » There are multiple anti viral drugs already going through trials and 60 different countries working on a vaccine. Haven’t heard a single scientist say there won’t be a vaccine. The viruses you listed aren’t Coronaviruses.
MadYaker wrote: » There’s loads of proof that previously infected people are immune. Have you heard about the antibody testing they’re using in Asia? These can give false positives which has led people to believe that some people got the infection twice but that’s not the case as far as I know.
Poorside wrote: » So in other words, flout the guidelines if you want to and just make sure you're alright jack.
carolmon wrote: » Just to be clear I'm not begrudging the elderly couple their celebration... I was just confused about the restrictions after I saw rte report it as a good news story. I then thought maybe we are allowed to call to a friend's garden once we don't go inside (I was hoping as it's very tough doing this totally alone)
VonLuck wrote: » I was just reading an Irish Times article where they said that smaller construction sites may also re-open although offices would remain closed for “many months more”, with working from home to remain in place “for the foreseeable future”. Slightly surprised that the government is already saying this before the end of this additional 3 week period.
JRant wrote: » There's real hope that a vaccine can be found, they almost got one for SARS-1 but the market for it disappeared overnight.
JRant wrote: » As for the rest, IMO that's just plain wrong. Society will go back to the way things were. Might take a little longer but all those places will reopen. We are not going to redesign society for something that can be managed with careful public health management.
alwald wrote: » There are other coronaviruses with no vaccine and while I am aware that plenty of trials are done there is still no certainty that a vaccine/cure will be found. No there is no proof yet as this is a new virus. All scientific studies will take years to come to final and clear conclusions. Testing is all over the place at the moment and countries are barely able to test people with symptoms never mind those previously infected.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Have to agree it is irresponsible journalism . Having said that I can’t see a huge harm in it if they are distancing well and making sure the elderly are safe But yes it is against the recommendation .
paw patrol wrote: » I'm not blind to that fact people will die either way. Just that the cost of the current situation is too much on a lot more people. There is a more balanced approach - as I stated in my original post. staying at home on lockdown isn't the answer.
JRant wrote: » There's real hope that a vaccine can be found, they almost got one for SARS-1 but the market for it disappeared overnight. As for the rest, IMO that's just plain wrong. Society will go back to the way things were. Might take a little longer but all those places will reopen. We are not going to redesign society for something that can be managed with careful public health management.
Diarmuid wrote: » That's not even necessary. If you have the symptoms, isolate for 14 days. The test doesn't really add a whole lot.
iamwhoiam wrote: » I think they will have to allow the cocooned group a short walk outside soon ., We look out the window here and not a soul to be seen , the roads are quiet most of the day with the odd walker out exercising .There is no reason why a 70 year old could not take a walk avoiding any contact and be vigilant . Even if they did meet another they can cross the road and be 5- 6 metres away .The vast majority in that group are well aware they have to be extra careful not to be close to anyone
Stateofyou wrote: » Ah yeah, none of us would begrudge it under normal circumstances! But the rules are there and if this is allowed to go on and promoted by the country's leading news source, then of course it is going to cause issues including unnecessary confusion. It's ridiculous. Edit to add I sympathise with how tough it is going at it alone. Hope you can get some video calls in with your friends and loved ones!
MadYaker wrote: » Go look at what they are doing in South Korea and Taiwan. That’s the road map we need to follow. Saying there’ll be no vaccine or cure is a fantasy and if you want to engage in fantasies I won’t stop you.
JRant wrote: » It's a good news story in the otherwise sea of misery we get dishes up. I loved seeing it and shows how people can be responsible while still maintaining the social distancing rules. As for the more strict restrictions they are "breaking" well boo hoo. This is an elderly couple and may pass away in the near future so seeing their family from a safe distance is doing absolutely no harm.
