Deleted User wrote: » They don't, unless you have your head buried in the sand. My parents were daily mass goers who now embrace television/radio as an alternative medium under the current circumstances. Your first sentence reads as a work of fiction.
JL555 wrote: » Apparently the tests that went to Germany were from early to mid march. I've been tracking the percentage change of new cases since this began and if we ommit the German lab test back even only 3 weeks we get:23rd to 29th March average % change in new cases is +16.47% 30th March to 05th April average % change new cases is + 9.61% 06th April to 12th April average % change new cases is +6.92% You can see that the increase in new cases is dropping. The percentage increases are the only ones I'm counting, not inputting anything else so it's a basic model. I'm aware that the testing is not perfect and there are delays, but these are the figures on a high level and can't be snuffed at. I might input daily deaths into a separate one but would want to input other data to make the data more meaningful
niallo27 wrote: » I don't think that is true, I think there are many of the older generation who might say, **** it I'm healthy enough I'm not going live my life hidden away if they are still stuck like this in a few months.
lord quackinton wrote: » Were you very young in 2008?? To this day People still go on about the banks And fianna Fáil And the Green Party And the water charges And the usc And worst of all how Brian lenihan was treated I understand many young people are ignorant of what happened back then It was hell, for me it was the not knowing daily what would collapse, what jobs would go unfortunately those days are back again I don’t want to argue or embarrass you or other posters but it is best we talk openly about what awaits all of us
Blueshoe wrote: » Ireland is too small to section it off like that. Wouldn't work
billyhead wrote: » True. Some very old people will just prefer to chance it and if they get it so be it. They would probably feel it is what it is. They don't want to live the last year's of their life in a goldfish bowl. Sure you could be run over by a bus in the morning.
JL555 wrote: » 23rd to 29th March average % change in new cases is +16.47% 30th March to 05th April average % change new cases is + 9.61% 06th April to 12th April average % change new cases is +6.92%
iamwhoiam wrote: » I am in the 65/70 age . I genuinely think if someone told me i couldn’t see my family or hold my grandchildren for a long period I would weigh up my options I am fit , healthy , look after my grandchildren before Covid , drive , travel , meet friends for dinner , go for long walks , swim etc. I think I might take the risk as not seeing my family or holding them close would kill us both here . We will do as told now and if they say another month we will do that but its very difficult to even contemplate much longer without a deep depression setting in I imagine a lot of my family and friends would feel the same
Sincere Whispering Seaside wrote: » The many elderly people in my family feel the opposite to the above. They all believe they have many years left in them, even if that's unlikely in some cases, and want to do everything necessary in the medium term to ensure they get to live those many years. They feel there's still plenty of life to live under the restrictions and believe it's mad that people can't suck it up for a year or so to get this sorted.
lord quackinton wrote: » this time people are choosing to embrace the crisis and just like the 2008 scapegoats they will not be spared.
Spencer Brown wrote: » Suck it up for a year or so? If only it was that simple.
Stateofyou wrote: » I can understand the incredibly difficult position you're in. But what happens when you become a burden on the health care system as do many others who feel the same way as you. What happens when you infect your family (and god forbid they don't make it), or they infect you- fine you're willing to take the risk but then who do you pass it on to before you realise you're sick. How would your family feel with the burden of knowing one of them were responsible for your death? Isn't all that the problem at the end of the day?
Sincere Whispering Seaside wrote: » That's what they think! Not widespread shut downs of business, but physical distancing and staying within your household unless essential.
Jenbach110 wrote: » Very poetic. Mass could be adapted for communion though!
niallo27 wrote: » That's brilliant, let's isolate them to keep them safe and let the younger and healthier people get on with getting back to normal.
Jenbach110 wrote: » Attitudes like this are perhaps one of the more demoralising effects of the virus. Its the shaming of the elderly who are petrified to become a burden. I can only say everyone has a right to life and there is worse things than death itself. Not living is one of them, none of us are living until restrictions are lifted, the elderly included.At what point do the restrictions become a worse fate than Covid itself?
Jenbach110 wrote: » Ive spoken to someone in the vunerable category who would be happy to take the risk eventually.
alwald wrote: » I spoke to the tooth fairy and was told that no-one should take a risk with COVID-19. I am actually using the same level of argumentation as yourself.
pgj2015 wrote: » just watched the rte news there, first time i have seen it in a while. jesus, i wont be watching it again for a long long time. what did we have yesterday here 34 deaths? only 14 today, did they mention that as a positive? did they $hite. its all doom and gloom. i voted fine gael in the election but im getting sick of Leo with his doom and gloom attitude as well, I think when this is all over people are going to associate him with this hardship and it wont end well for him. he was the same way on 17th march, hes not really someone that gives you hope is he? so depressing listening to him.
Sincere Whispering Seaside wrote: » Yes they would be ok with that. They all live with younger healthier people though. The housing crisis has affected all of their families. Some have children living with them, a lot live with children. That will have to be addressed. It would also mean the care workers, home helps, nurses etc would remain a massive risk to the elderly if they didn't maintain restrictions. That's a big cause for concern to them.
