MaureensFry wrote: » So just because the over 60's and people/families with underlying conditions have to self isolate everybody should? They'll have to wait for a vaccine unfortunatly. I'm all for everyone to self isolate until the curve flattens but after that we need to get back to normal. Older people and people with underlying conditions will have to continue to self isolate until a vaccine is announced.
KiKi III wrote: » Right, but why are you so focused on the number today and determinedly ignoring the spike to 33 yesterday? Yes, if the numbers were 14 and lower over the next 7 days that would be very encouraging but you need to brace yourself for the fact that that’s fairly unlikely.
Jenbach110 wrote: » The curve by all accounts is flattened. In fact the infamous curve is now a hole
C.O.Y.B.I.B wrote: » Has anyone seen any stats on how people contracted it .
niallo27 wrote: » If I had said to you 6 days ago, that I think the number is going be less than that daily figure of 36 over the next 5 days in fact I think it will more than half what would you have said.
iamwhoiam wrote: » You most certainly don’t have to skip back to the pub while the vulnerable stay indoors so you can
pjohnson wrote: » Lets say you've a leaky roof Would you A) Partially repair the roof with a bit of sellotape and a towel and leave it for a few months or would you repair it fully asap? Which method of repair will cause less damage overall do you think?
MaureensFry wrote: » Hopefully by the end of May we can get back to normal with still some restrictions in place. E.G you can't leave your county of residence unless for work, people who can work from home still can.Pubs and restraunts should be allowed to open and all other businesses. Let the over 60's and people with underlying conditions self isolate until a vaccine is announced.
niallo27 wrote: » Hang on you can repair this asap, please tell us how you expect to do this.
Stheno wrote: » According to Dr Tony Friday, median age of deaths was 80, mean was70 iirc and the range was from 32 to 102
normanoffside wrote: » Tony mentioned a Mean of 70 in Friday's Press conference (Median 82 IIRC) I posted it on the main thread as I heard it Here you go, this is the only recorded proof of it I can find:https://www.clareecho.ie/confusion-on-total-covid-19-cases-in-ireland-with-69-people-diagnosed-in-clare/Of the deaths to date, 70% were in a hospitalised setting, the median age was 82 and the mean age was 70. The age of those who have died range from 32 to 105
MaureensFry wrote: » No when the curve flattens we should get back to normal. No point staying at home for 18 months when its mostly the elderly and people with underlying conditions affected. They can get the vaccine then. No point in everyone suffering. There is no cure for Covid-19 or vaccine yet. We won't get rid of the virus.
normanoffside wrote: » As mentioned here:
KiKi III wrote: » How will it change your opinion if tomorrow’s death figure is 40-50? Will it alter your opinion? It seems like your mind is made up one way or the other. I’d be delighted if the figure stayed at 14 and lower but I don’t think that’s going to be the case.
Jenbach110 wrote: » No you would address the specific localised damaged area of the roof and repair it. Using your example the approach that has been taken to the restrictions would be equivalent of putting an umbrella over Ireland to prevent the rain falling in the 1st place. The side effects of the umbrella blocking light and rain will cause more devastation than a leaky roof, but at least your attic is dry
pjohnson wrote: » A roof? Yeah I know a guy. You seem to have been unable to read my full question. Please try again really hard this time niall I know its a hard question but option A or B? Which is better
iamwhoiam wrote: » Good luck with getting back to normal if you lock up all the over 60’s Teachers , nurses , doctors , etc etc many many 60 year old are fully functioning part of society
iamwhoiam wrote: » If you allow one whole group off to the pub you only increase the period of isolation for the other group
irishgeo wrote: » The lockdown restrictions should be showing in the cases now after we get rid of the German backlog.
niallo27 wrote: » B obviously but unlike your roof, this virus can not be fixed completely asap.
pjohnson wrote: » So option B. That is what we are doing. Actual repair not a half assed job but proper repair.
Jenbach110 wrote: » This is a not the basis of an argument. No one is asking to go to a pub. Being able to buy paint perhaps or travel further than 2km from home. Nobody want the pubs to be reopened any time soon
niallo27 wrote: » You do know with this analogy, any drop of decent rain the roof will start to leak again. Do you just keep paying the same guy to fix it.
Jenbach110 wrote: » Well if those are not in isolation now, why arent they?