Yurt! wrote: » An additional 6.5bn added to current spending commitments on social and affordable to reach 100k units over the stated period. This was covered exhaustively around the election on both traditional media an social media.
Yurt! wrote: » Covered over and over. SF never claimed 65k will build a new unit.
Yurt! wrote: » Go find it yourself. You wont like what it has to say, because it completely contradicts your narrative. Oh dear.
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » Sorry, in what world does 100,000 units for €6.5 billion not work out at €65k? And if it's not €65k per unit which of the two figures from the SF manifesto is wrong? Are they not planning 100,000 homes or are they planning to spend more than €6.5 billion?
Sultan_of_Ping wrote: » Their manifesto didn't specify what size would be provided, but you'd imagine there would be a good mix to cover different sized households? The only manifesto commitment given by SF was for 100,000 homes costing €6.5billion I think the only thing that's been debunked is that you can't build houses for €65k in Ireland.
Deleted User wrote: » I'm sure that podcast mentioned by Yurt will turn up any minute now.
Deleted User wrote: » Sorry if this has already been answered, but what size were the proposed units? Family or single occupancy?
Colonel Claptrap wrote: » She is risen.
zerosugarbuzz wrote: » More importantly, where has eoghan Murphy disappeared to? Last I heard he was self isolating but that was a few weeks ago.
Yurt! wrote: » Irish times podcast around the time of the election. Quite frankly, the burden is on you with the 65k figure. That was plucked out of the air to beat SF over the head with. No such claims were made by SF so why bother even going there. And no, I won't be answering your questions, because you ask them in bad faith.
Yurt! wrote: » It would help if you knew what the word equivocation meant. You've been checkmated a couple of pages back Mort.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » Mary Lou due to make a public appearance for the Sinn Féin Online National Easter Commemoration at 3pm, first time she will have been out in a good while. They're still advertising that she will make the keynote address so if she doesn't show then there is definitely something up.
Mortelaro wrote: » Still no equivocation offered,I see Let's ask question one again,what were senior SF representatives doing living it up sipping socialist champagne last year at a despots inauguration, millions of whose citizens were fleeing to America in a country ravaged with homelessness and poverty with a hospital system with no medicine, never mind ppe or test kits
Yurt! wrote: » I have to say, watching a FG supporter trying to mount a defense of FG TDs and Senators showing up at an event organized by a group called The People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran is grade-A lockdown entertainment. Better than Tiger King.
Mortelaro wrote: » No equivocation offered I see or the question answered Let's try another easier one What's the SF position on Syria and Irans support (both bastions of human rights and democracy...) for Hezbollah? Yeah or Nay ?
Yurt! wrote: » Richmond and Noone appearing at that conference is as big an embarrassment as the SF jolly to Venezuela. If you have an Iranian friend, ask them who the MEK are, and watch for their reaction when you say politicians from Ireland's governing party are showing up at their conferences. It's an embarrassment and you know it. Like I said, there's more where that came from for FG and other parties.
Mortelaro wrote: » Nope Were they supporting the Iranian regime yes or no Simple answer Ditto with SF at Maduro's inaugural Answer there is yes Inconvenient one for you alright isn't it?
Yurt! wrote: » Lol. It's an inconvenient one for you alright isn't it?
Mortelaro wrote: » Were they representing FG or there to praise the regime? Try again
Deleted User wrote: » Third question? I ask because the state as landlord already has an issue collecting rents, how would you solve it? Fairly basic question since SF want to increase the state's role as a landlord. Can you provide a link to the Lorcan Sirr article? I'm absolutely willing to concede this but Dublin council's costings are roughly 5 times that much for the ones they have built (and that's when they own the land) https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dublin-city-council-says-average-housing-unit-costs-330-000-1.3523127 And can you answer the first question I asked you?
Yurt! wrote: » Fine let's play this game then. One that immediately springs to mind is... Why did Senator Neale Richmond (newly minted FG TD) along with Catherine Noone appear at a conference sponsored by the People's Mojahedin Organization of Iran (also known as MEK) in France last year? Alongside assorted Trumpites. An Islamic militant diaspora movement that had been labelled a cult in various quarters. That's just one from last year. And there's more where that came from. I await your reply with bated breath... By the way, Neale Richmond frames himself as some sort of foreign affairs policy expert, so I won't be letting him off the hook that he didn't know who these goons were.
[Deleted User] wrote: » So, the €65K was an average. Did this include services and site? Again, apologies if already answered.
Yurt! wrote: » The first point has been covered at length and has been debunked. You're peddling a myth. SF never claimed they would build units at 65k. The costings they gave had the rule ran over them by Lorcan Sirr (Ireland's preeminent housing economist). Not only did he say their costings on housing were doable, he said they're the most correct course of action given the situation. I don't even get why you're asking the second question.
Deleted User wrote: » So, the €65K was an average. Did this include services and site? Again, apologies if already answered.
Yurt! wrote: » They were a mix of units. Wasn't a one size fits all plan.
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