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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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donaghs

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

The more some people ignore the current restrictions the longer they will remain in place. As an old boss of mine used to say it`s not rocket science.

It has to end at some point, even if its a result of public anger from mass unemployment. The unemployment rate in the US has gone from 3.5% in Feb, to 13% this week. The fastest ever unemployment growth in US history. We are all on some stage of the recession/depression pipeline.

How does a government or health service function without a tax base?

niallo27

KrustyUCC wrote: »

100%

Hard on those who are doing what we are instructed

Some people just don't care

There was a story yesterday that the guards stopped a fella travelling from Tipp to Limerick to buy a trampoline

Are trampolines highly infectious or something.

niallo27

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

The more some people ignore the current restrictions the longer they will remain in place. As an old boss of mine used to say it`s not rocket science.

That's bull****, you cant keep punishing the majority because of a tiny minority. It wont work, some people will ignore the current restrictions no matter what the situation or penalties.

KrustyUCC

KiKi III wrote: »

Our stats have improved dramatically since the announcement of the lockdown. The growth of the virus has been slowed significantly. Next step is seeing the flattening and decrease of numbers.

I'm not sure we have seen the benefit of the lockdown yet as testing and test results are a few weeks behind

Prob the March 12th - 28th restrictions

Hopefully the lockdown can be seen shortly

KrustyUCC

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

The more some people ignore the current restrictions the longer they will remain in place. As an old boss of mine used to say it`s not rocket science.

100%

Hard on those who are doing what we are instructed

Some people just don't care

There was a story yesterday that the guards stopped a fella travelling from Tipp to Limerick to buy a trampoline

KiKi III

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The end of today was meant to be original end of lockdown

24 days to go to the next deadline

Prob 21 to the next announcement of another extension

Doing really well folks just not well enough

Rinse and repeat

Our stats have improved dramatically since the announcement of the lockdown. The growth of the virus has been slowed significantly. Next step is seeing the flattening and decrease of numbers.

Galwayguy35

road_high wrote: »

No one is advocating that. But small reopenings would be good for the economy and the nations morale also

The guy I quoted said everything should open.

appledrop

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The end of today was meant to be original end of lockdown

24 days to go to the next deadline

Prob 21 to the next announcement of another extension

Doing really well folks just not well enough

Rinse and repeat

God when its put like that its very depressing.

I think if they had of starting opening say just hardware shops this week it would give people some hope.

Cork Boy 53

KrustyUCC wrote: »

The end of today was meant to be original end of lockdown

24 days to go to the next deadline

Prob 21 to the next announcement of another extension

Doing really well folks just not well enough

Rinse and repeat

The more some people ignore the current restrictions the longer they will remain in place. As an old boss of mine used to say it`s not rocket science.

KrustyUCC

The end of today was meant to be original end of lockdown

24 days to go to the next deadline

Prob 21 to the next announcement of another extension

Doing really well folks just not well enough

Rinse and repeat

niallo27

Blueshoe wrote: »

What are small reopenings? Which business types?

I see hardware centres being mentioned over and over.
Anything else?

Building sites, these projects will be the first to be pulled unless started soon.

TheCitizen

lord quackinton wrote: »

Those who back this indefinite lockdown
How are you coping with what faces the economy
Are you not worried about your job and you children’s future
I need to know more about posters so I can understand there reasoning

Can I ask what is your personal situation
Before lockdown were you working in private sector, a student, on benefits, a public sector employee, receiving a pension, a renter, a mortgage holder, where you live

I work in finance, live in rural tipp, bought my home outright with money I earned working in Australia in mining,
We are still working and my job is safe but I expect to be told to take a 20% pay cut next month
And in December I expect government to raise taxes across the board and to slash public expenditure
The effects will be brutal and that is why we need to open immediately
The results of 2008 in my local town Were harrowing with many unemployed and suicides jumped but it took 3 years for me to accept that the main result of 2008 was rural Ireland took one hell of a beating and government did not care
The longer the lockdown lasts the very real chance What wealth is left in small towns and villages will disappear forever.
Instead of 10,000 or 20,000 dead nationally you will have many villages and towns turned into wastelands and the results of that will be with us for many years to come

We must open up fully For the good of the nation

:pac: It's like that arcade game where you bash a pop up shark with a hammer and another one pops up.

road_high

appledrop wrote: »

I really dont understand why hardware shops couldnt open in a controlled manner.

After spending 2 weeks queuing for over an hour for groceries + definitely not properly controlled for social distance, how could going to a huge B&Q warehouse for supplies be putting you more st risk?

It would give people something to do. People are cracking up at home. A lot of people take holidays at Easter + some employers have still enforced this even though nowhere to go + nothing to do. At least if they could do a few jobs around the house it would be worth it when this is over.

My local Woodies DIY is a massive store. Many times the size of an Aldi or Lidl with way less customers. Social distancing is no problem now or pre crisis.

Thingymebob

I hope they’ll do a very gradual opening up, but it’s easy for most people to say ‘open with social distancing principles in practice’.

Himself works in a workshop, about 400sqm with just 4 people onsite. They use PPE as part of their jobs regardless. In theory they could re-open easily but it’s the associated activities, deliveries, customer interactions etc that will prove to be problematic.

Me, I’m in an office based role. My own office is shared with five others. My desk is beside the office entry door, no one can give me 75cm let alone 2m when passing my desk. I walk out into the hallway, and I’m immediately in contact with potentially 4,000 people who are based in my building.

I think it’s difficult to make blanket statements as it’s challenging to measure all work places equally.

Also, you’ve got a lot of individual employees who won’t fit the mould easily either. Telling a group to go back to work, yet if they don’t have access to their usual supports like childcare will be problematic. We don’t have children, but I’m considered vulnerable due to medication and two autoimmune conditions. On a day to day basis I’m good, everything under control, but this isn’t normal day to day. I don’t want the world shut down permanently either.

I’ll be honest, I wouldn’t want to be a politician or senior advisor because I think whatever is done, there will be criticism in years to come,

road_high

Blueshoe wrote: »

What are small reopenings? Which business types?

I see hardware centres being mentioned over and over.
Anything else?

Garden centres would fall under the same category. It would be more appropriate for the individuals actually working in different areas to advise than me I think.

marno21

Blueshoe wrote: »

What are small reopenings? Which business types?

I see hardware centres being mentioned over and over.
Anything else?

Hardware stores/coops/general stores - there are quite a lot of these around, most are big and spacious, and would be useful for those of us who have a lengthy DIY list but no supplies

Electronics & electrical stores - lot of these are warehouse type operations and are able to practice social distancing.

Bookshops & newsagents - plenty of people reading atm who might have run out of material

LessOutragePlz

Del Griffith wrote: »

Chances of infection on a trip like that? Assuming he's driving and it's left outside or social distance practiced, next to none.

I don't get the outrage

Indeed less outrage plz!

appledrop

I really dont understand why hardware shops couldnt open in a controlled manner.

After spending 2 weeks queuing for over an hour for groceries + definitely not properly controlled for social distance, how could going to a huge B&Q warehouse for supplies be putting you more st risk?

It would give people something to do. People are cracking up at home. A lot of people take holidays at Easter + some employers have still enforced this even though nowhere to go + nothing to do. At least if they could do a few jobs around the house it would be worth it when this is over.

Blueshoe

road_high wrote: »

No one is advocating that. But small reopenings would be good for the economy and the nations morale also

What are small reopenings? Which business types?

I see hardware centres being mentioned over and over.
Anything else?

road_high

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

They haven't a notion of just opening up everything at once, it would land us back to square one and we would end up with a much longer lockdown.

It's better in the long run to take the pain now and gradually get back to normal over a few months.

No one is advocating that. But small reopenings would be good for the economy and the nations morale also

Galwayguy35

lord quackinton wrote: »

Those who back this indefinite lockdown
How are you coping with what faces the economy
Are you not worried about your job and you children’s future
I need to know more about posters so I can understand there reasoning

Can I ask what is your personal situation
Before lockdown were you working in private sector, a student, on benefits, a public sector employee, receiving a pension, a renter, a mortgage holder, where you live

I work in finance, live in rural tipp, bought my home outright with money I earned working in Australia in mining,
We are still working and my job is safe but I expect to be told to take a 20% pay cut next month
And in December I expect government to raise taxes across the board and to slash public expenditure
The effects will be brutal and that is why we need to open immediately
The results of 2008 in my local town Were harrowing with many unemployed and suicides jumped but it took 3 years for me to accept that the main result of 2008 was rural Ireland took one hell of a beating and government did not care
The longer the lockdown lasts the very real chance What wealth is left in small towns and villages will disappear forever.
Instead of 10,000 or 20,000 dead nationally you will have many villages and towns turned into wastelands and the results of that will be with us for many years to come

We must open up fully For the good of the nation

They haven't a notion of just opening up everything at once, it would land us back to square one and we would end up with a much longer lockdown.

It's better in the long run to take the pain now and gradually get back to normal over a few months.

road_high

lord quackinton wrote: »

Those who back this indefinite lockdown
How are you coping with what faces the economy
Are you not worried about your job and you children’s future
I need to know more about posters so I can understand there reasoning

Can I ask what is your personal situation
Before lockdown were you working in private sector, a student, on benefits, a public sector employee, receiving a pension, a renter, a mortgage holder, where you live

I work in finance, live in rural tipp, bought my home outright with money I earned working in Australia in mining,
We are still working and my job is safe but I expect to be told to take a 20% pay cut next month
And in December I expect government to raise taxes across the board and to slash public expenditure
The effects will be brutal and that is why we need to open immediately
The results of 2008 in my local town Were harrowing with many unemployed and suicides jumped but it took 3 years for me to accept that the main result of 2008 was rural Ireland took one hell of a beating and government did not care
The longer the lockdown lasts the very real chance What wealth is left in small towns and villages will disappear forever.
Instead of 10,000 or 20,000 dead nationally you will have many villages and towns turned into wastelands and the results of that will be with us for many years to come

We must open up fully For the good of the nation

I’m in the private sector, Mid 30s in the chemical industry and on a decent salary with good benefits. I’ve managed to keep working away as we are part of the critical supply chain. I’ve got a modest enough house and mortgage.
I was in the public service last recession on fixed term and lost my job that time. So I’m naturally very cautious and terrified of this as I did suffer but not in the severe way others like you outline did.
I too am very worried. There’s so many jobs not coming back anytime soon and i know personally the lives and responsibilities behind each of these. People not in their wildest dreams would be out of work
I support a short term lockdown but think the current ones are overly severe eg hardware stores and the like could easily be open and or offer click/call and collect. I feel there’s little balance going on

KiKi III

lord quackinton wrote: »

Those who back this indefinite lockdown
How are you coping with what faces the economy
Are you not worried about your job and you children’s future
I need to know more about posters so I can understand there reasoning

Can I ask what is your personal situation
Before lockdown were you working in private sector, a student, on benefits, a public sector employee, receiving a pension, a renter, a mortgage holder, where you live

I work in finance, live in rural tipp, bought my home outright with money I earned working in Australia in mining,
We are still working and my job is safe but I expect to be told to take a 20% pay cut next month
And in December I expect government to raise taxes across the board and to slash public expenditure
The effects will be brutal and that is why we need to open immediately
The results of 2008 in my local town Were harrowing with many unemployed and suicides jumped but it took 3 years for me to accept that the main result of 2008 was rural Ireland took one hell of a beating and government did not care
The longer the lockdown lasts the very real chance What wealth is left in small towns and villages will disappear forever.
Instead of 10,000 or 20,000 dead nationally you will have many villages and towns turned into wastelands and the results of that will be with us for many years to come

We must open up fully For the good of the nation

I’m a single, self-employed person who isn’t a homeowner. I’m from rural Ireland and I live in Dublin and I love both places. This crisis has probably shot my chance of buying a house any time soon to bits. I work in a field that is often one of the first to see budget cuts in situations like this.

Of course I’m scared for my financial future. Far more so than I am scared of catching the virus myself. I’m in my early 30s with no underlying medical issue so I’d more than likely be absolutely fine.

But I can’t just think about it in terms of me.

We rebuilt after 2008 and we’ll rebuild again. The rural communities you’re talking about protecting are full of older people at great risk of this virus.

Penfailed

lord quackinton wrote: »

We must open up fully For the good of the nation

When? ...and when you say, "fully," do you mean everything? Pubs, gigs, football matches, etc?
"For the good of the nation." What about all the people who will inevitably die? It won't matter if the whole country opens up fully now anyway. The damage is already done...globally. It's a global economy now.

road_high

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Nope there will not be austerity - government will not raise taxes.

Ecb rate is -.75% we will borrow along with every other country in the world who will print money.

If you believe that then I can ask have you lived in Ireland very long? The default button here has always been to raise taxes on the usual cash cows. I can’t see why it’ll be any different this time. The costs will be massive.
I’m very worried about the economy like a previous poster outlined

Theboinkmaster

lord quackinton wrote: »

Those who back this indefinite lockdown
How are you coping with what faces the economy
Are you not worried about your job and you children’s future
I need to know more about posters so I can understand there reasoning

Can I ask what is your personal situation
Before lockdown were you working in private sector, a student, on benefits, a public sector employee, receiving a pension, a renter, a mortgage holder, where you live

I work in finance, live in rural tipp, bought my home outright with money I earned working in Australia in mining,
We are still working and my job is safe but I expect to be told to take a 20% pay cut next month
And in December I expect government to raise taxes across the board and to slash public expenditure
The effects will be brutal and that is why we need to open immediately
The results of 2008 in my local town Were harrowing with many unemployed and suicides jumped but it took 3 years for me to accept that the main result of 2008 was rural Ireland took one hell of a beating and government did not care
The longer the lockdown lasts the very real chance What wealth is left in small towns and villages will disappear forever.
Instead of 10,000 or 20,000 dead nationally you will have many villages and towns turned into wastelands and the results of that will be with us for many years to come

We must open up fully For the good of the nation

Nope there will not be austerity - government will not raise taxes.

Ecb rate is -.75% we will borrow along with every other country in the world who will print money.

lord quackinton

Those who back this indefinite lockdown
How are you coping with what faces the economy
Are you not worried about your job and you children’s future
I need to know more about posters so I can understand there reasoning

Can I ask what is your personal situation
Before lockdown were you working in private sector, a student, on benefits, a public sector employee, receiving a pension, a renter, a mortgage holder, where you live

I work in finance, live in rural tipp, bought my home outright with money I earned working in Australia in mining,
We are still working and my job is safe but I expect to be told to take a 20% pay cut next month
And in December I expect government to raise taxes across the board and to slash public expenditure
The effects will be brutal and that is why we need to open immediately
The results of 2008 in my local town Were harrowing with many unemployed and suicides jumped but it took 3 years for me to accept that the main result of 2008 was rural Ireland took one hell of a beating and government did not care
The longer the lockdown lasts the very real chance What wealth is left in small towns and villages will disappear forever.
Instead of 10,000 or 20,000 dead nationally you will have many villages and towns turned into wastelands and the results of that will be with us for many years to come

We must open up fully For the good of the nation

Tokyo

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

HOWS LIFE IN AMERICA.
Each and every time you respond ;-)

Mod: No you won't. Don't post in the thread again.

mandrake04

Dickie10 wrote: »

i think restrictions will be lifted slowly from may 5th , every fortnight, schools will remain shut, leaving certs maybe back late may for two weeks of a heads up on LC then sent packing for the summer not a hope teachers will be in over summer. rest of kids schools out at end of may id say, all the home schooling done in line with school year. i think things will be up and running agin by mid june, pubs the lot. over 70s will be advised to cocoon. herd immunity will mean we prob wont have huge death surge after the next fortnight. i think the surge is now.

It seems leaving cert has been postponed until late July - August which is ambitious enough.

Just can’t see pubs being reopened by June, the pub environment goes against the whole fabric of social distance and even though the numbers might improve they closed down the country for 6 weeks and they are not going wreck that by opening pubs...same goes for international travel and international visitors.

Herd immunity only work if over 60% population have immunity, so correct case numbers would need to be over 2.5million cases where at the moment it’s only 6500 but we know it’s a lot higher but no where near it.

Cupatae

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

What part of you do not get to speak for everyone do you not understand?

Didn't you speak for all young people not caring about elderly they have no connection with and not putting there lives on hold ECT... Earlier in the thread ?

Do you try to be a hypocrite or does it just happen naturally for you ?