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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Pkiernan

I haven't seen or heard anything from Mary Lou, Slab Murphy and other good Republicans in ages.

What's going on?

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YFlyer

Are they staying in their safe houses?

Sultan_of_Ping

Mortelaro wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0411/1129983-sinn-fein-criticise-call-for-covid-19-help-from-army/

Who is the new leader of SF.........Phillip Flop??

One minute it's

Coronavirus: Sinn Fein would accept British Army help in Northern Ireland's Covid-19 fight, says Conor Murphy

Now it's......

Sinn Féin hits out at call for British Army assistance to deal with coronavirus

Which is it?

Has Conor been telling porkies again?

RandomViewer

Edgware wrote: »

You are very limited in your judgement of people.

We have someone who will be mentioned internationnly after he dies for all the wrong reasons, how does that seem wrong?

FrancieBrady

Has everybody forgotten what we were all afraid of in Brexit?

There are still elements who will attack a BA presence in NI, they are a very very last resort.

As the article points out there are plenty within NI willing to help and with the resources too. Doesn't look to me that all resources have 'been exhausted'.

FrancieBrady

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Who is the new leader of SF.........Phillip Flop??

One minute it's

Coronavirus: Sinn Fein would accept British Army help in Northern Ireland's Covid-19 fight, says Conor Murphy

Now it's......

Sinn Féin hits out at call for British Army assistance to deal with coronavirus

Which is it?

Has Conor been telling porkies again?

Do you guys just read headlines?

From the article:

Sinn Fein has made it clear we will not rule out any measure necessary to save lives, protect the public and tackle the spread of Coronavirus,"

Hamsterchops

Mortelaro wrote: »

Could the war not be put aside for one minute even for this crisis
Most of the recruits involved won't be old enough to remember the troubles

The only war I know of is the war against Covid-19.

[Deleted User]

Hamsterchops wrote: »

The only war I know of is the war against Covid-19.

Aye....great idea,send dissidents hundreds of handy targets

Jesus,the lack of risk.analysis or basic commonsense about here is both a joy and horror to behold

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Has everybody forgotten what we were all afraid of in Brexit?

There are still elements who will attack a BA presence in NI, they are a very very last resort.

As the article points out there are plenty within NI willing to help and with the resources too. Doesn't look to me that all resources have 'been exhausted'.

I think anyone attacking British military building hospitals for Covid19 should be in prison
Preferably in a loyalist wing with sashes for bed sheets and God save the Queen on repeat

Edgware

RandomViewer wrote: »

We have someone who will be mentioned internationnly after he dies for all the wrong reasons, how does that seem wrong?

Because you are wrong

FrancieBrady

Mortelaro wrote: »

I think anyone attacking British military building hospitals for Covid19 should be in prison
Preferably in a loyalist wing with sashes for bed sheets and God save the Queen on repeat

What?

suicide_circus

So SF criticises the decision to ask the army to help distribute medical supplies but they won't stand in the way of any measure to protect lives?

FrancieBrady

suicide_circus wrote: »

So SF criticises the decision to ask the army to help distribute medical supplies but they won't stand in the way of any measure to protect lives?

I presume it's acceptable as a last last resource.

Anyone with sense who wishes to keep things stable in NI would not have the BA next or near the place.
Anyway with almost a 1000 people dead in Britain they may be needed there first.

suicide_circus

so a political dig at a time of crisis.

don't we laugh at orange men for living in the past?

FrancieBrady

suicide_circus wrote: »

so a political dig at a time of crisis.

don't we laugh at orange men for living in the past?

How is wanting to keep the situation stable and not giving targets to people who wish to de-stabilise a political dig?

suicide_circus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How is wanting to keep the situation stable and not giving targets to people who wish to de-stabilise a political dig?

i mean ok, that could be the reason, i suspect its simply not wanting to see BA boots on the streets (which i understand) but now is hardly the time to worry about aesthetics

FrancieBrady

suicide_circus wrote: »

i mean ok, that could be the reason, i suspect its simply not wanting to see BA boots on the streets (which i understand) but now is hardly the time to worry about aesthetics

There was never anything 'simple' about 'BA boots on the streets' in Ireland sadly.

suicide_circus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There was never anything 'simple' about 'BA boots on the streets' in Ireland sadly.

i get it but its not the time imo

Mortelaro

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What?

You know exactly what

all about the mane

Still no sign of Mary. Great leader right there...

Hamsterchops

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I presume it's acceptable as a last last resource.

Anyone with sense who wishes to keep things stable in NI would not have the BA next or near the place.
Anyway with almost a 1000 people dead in Britain they may be needed there first.

The army has a second to none logistics capability, would be crazy not to use the Royal Logistic corps (if they were called for), no guns, just logistical transport support.

cadaliac

suicide_circus wrote: »

i get it but its not the time imo

It is.
If it were unchecked or if something like the black and tan memorial went ahead in Dublin a few months back - what do you think would happen?

I get where you are coming from but in this case SF (or the powers that run SF) are actually saving (some) people from themselves.

It is a completely avoidably situation that they are actually avoiding. I admire them for it.

It might seem like a good idea but it needs much more thought than a flippant remark or suggestion from a politician.

FrancieBrady

Hamsterchops wrote: »

The army has a second to none logistics capability, would be crazy not to use the Royal Logistic corps (if they were called for), no guns, just logistical transport support.

A border was a good idea to solve the issue with Brexit...but EVERYONE knew how destabilising it would be. It would be crazy to destabilise now just because a Unionist is trying to troll republicans/nationalists.

There my come a sad time when it is the only option but we are a long way off that.

Beasty

FrancieBrady is now threadbanned

Hamsterchops

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A border was a good idea to solve the issue with Brexit...but EVERYONE knew how destabilising it would be. It would be crazy to destabilise now just because a Unionist is trying to troll republicans/nationalists.

There my come a sad time when it is the only option but we are a long way off that.

You think Robin Swann is trying to troll?

OK.

[Deleted User]

all about the mane wrote: »

Still no sign of Mary. Great leader right there...

She's just so mysterious

Yurt2

Deleted User wrote: »

Genuinely who do you think is saying that?

Feel free to offer actual solutions as opposed to opprobrium.

A FG foghorn quite literally said there is no better way. If we're going to go down the road of solutions v opprobrium, perhaps the FG online cubscout wing can do slightly better than rehashing Thatcherite insults from the 80s when alternative policies are being discussed here and elsewhere.

Ye lot are guilty as hell of just flinging insults (Venezuela, commies, the Ra blah blah blah) when people are talking through something as simple as a different approach housing or health. Or a differing approach to tax bands.

It's obnoxious as hell, self regarding, and not as half as clever as you think it is.

zerosugarbuzz

More importantly, where has eoghan Murphy disappeared to? Last I heard he was self isolating but that was a few weeks ago.

Mortelaro

Yurt! wrote: »

A FG foghorn quite literally said there is no better way. If we're going to go down the road of solutions v opprobrium, perhaps the FG online cubscout wing can do slightly better than rehashing Thatcherite insults from the 80s when alternative policies are being discussed here and elsewhere.

Ye lot are guilty as hell of just flinging insults (Venezuela, commies, the Ra blah blah blah) when people are talking through something as simple as a different approach housing or health. Or a differing approach to tax bands.

It's obnoxious as hell, self regarding, and not as half as clever as you think it is.

Au contraire I'd contend that attending Maduros inauguration is obnoxious
If a government representative went,we would never hear the end of it
Anyone that thinks ignoring who a party waves up as a shining light eg Syriza or very dodgy Venezuela or Cuba is deluded
Show me your friends and I'll tell you what you are

Sultan_of_Ping

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

More importantly, where has eoghan Murphy disappeared to? Last I heard he was self isolating but that was a few weeks ago.

I'm guessing that as housing minister there's not much need for him to visible in the midst of a public health emergency?

As an aside, it seems McDonald is due back in the Dail next week.

Yurt2

Mortelaro wrote: »

Au contraire I'd contend that attending Maduros inauguration is obnoxious
If a government representative went,we would never hear the end of it
Anyone that thinks ignoring who a party waves up as a shining light eg Syriza or very dodgy Venezuela or Cuba is deluded
Show me your friends and I'll tell you what you are

Nobody cares. SF are not Syriza or whoever you want them to be. You want to talk about Venezuela when there's a country to run. That's called a classic non-sequitur.

Let's not play the game of which Irish politician shook hands with what despot throughout the years. FG might not come out of it as squeeky clean as you'd think.