Relaxation of restrictions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz_gOFRwTcg

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Without clear facts on what was on board when the ship sailed there could have been 500 cars with caravans on the same ship.

Do you not trust Leo and the PHET to protect us? I thought everyone thought they were doing a great job

Airyfairy12

I can see how this situation is hard on business owners who will have to close shop or get into debt, I also see how it's difficult for people who are losing their jobs and have families to feed but besides that, it makes me laugh how people cant cope because the pubs are closed or they have to stay at home.
It's really not that hard to just stay home. There are people literally dying alone, hospital and shop staff are risking their health to keep us healthy.

I used to live in the countryside with my folks. There was no public transport beside one bus at 7 in the morning that had a pick up stop at a ditch 10 minute walk from the house. Living so far out the middle of nowhere I couldnt get a job and because I couldnt get a job I had no money to move out. It was a bit of a nightmare and lasted roughly 3 years before I finally caught a break and got myself out of there.
During these restrictions I have more freedom now than I did during those years living in the country. I can leave and go for walks on safe roads and footpaths. Theres no fear of being hit by a boy racer, a speeding tractor or lorry. Theres also no fear of being attacked by viscous dogs as for some reason people with dogs out the country think its fine to let them out on their own and wander along the side of the road.
I can go to a shop when I need food and a chemist when I need medicine, these are all things I couldnt do when living out the countryside.
I have friends who are still stuck out the country side - they dont feel the restrictions because they couldnt go anywhere even if they wanted to.

All this talk of people not being able to deal with the restrictions for much longer.. suck it up.

Jimmy Garlic

Can't come too soon..

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The issue was hundreds of people coming here, of course they could be in the back of freight trucks.

Without clear facts on what was on board when the ship sailed there could have been 500 cars with caravans on the same ship.

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Where's all the hundreds of freight trucks that were on that ship at the same time? Crooked media if they accept this as fact.

The issue was hundreds of people coming here, of course they could be in the back of freight trucks.

Thelonious Monk

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I've spent 5 years running the roads because I'm too mean to pay for a gym. I introduced my other son to tarmac. He's not a fan. However he and his friends set up a challenge group on WhatsApp a 5km is part of the regime. I'm honoured my 20year is asking me for advice how to run a fast 5 km. Some positives

Yeah I was paying for a pretty expensive gym before all this happened, they've been going for decades at this stage, I can't see how they will recover from all this. Last thing I want to do is go into a steam room when all this is over, breeding ground for disease!
That's one of the industries here I just can't see how they will recover.
On the positive side I've been walking and jogging a fair bit lately, it's really nice in this weather, and I'm lucky to live beside a huge park.

alwald wrote: »

I do make sense and I have no intention to discuss with someone swimming in his own sea of thoughts.

I also make sense . So we both make sense happy out . Good night.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The hoardes arriving...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElaineEgan_/status/1248968204141068288?s=04

Where's all the hundreds of freight trucks that were on that ship at the same time? Crooked media if they accept this as fact.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Your comment makes no sense, gald you are enjoying your beer .Maybe get back to me when you are sober.

I do make sense and I have no intention to discuss with someone swimming in his own sea of thoughts.

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Who is going to challenge it? There's currently no elected government in power to take the pain.

People, compliance only goes so far if people don't see an end plan.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Well at least everyone will be on the same playing field. I got this pull up bar thing that fits into a door frame a couple of weeks ago, you can do loads of stuff with it, it's part of my try not to go crazy stuck indoors routine now.

I've spent 5 years running the roads because I'm too mean to pay for a gym. I introduced my other son to tarmac. He's not a fan. However he and his friends set up a challenge group on WhatsApp a 5km is part of the regime. I'm honoured my 20year is asking me for advice how to run a fast 5 km. Some positives

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It won't go till August, the populace won't tolerate a lock down of that duration.

Who is going to challenge it? There's currently no elected government in power to take the pain.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

What's irrelevant is the hyperbole and hysteria from some on this topic - almost as if they can't see beyond the simple STAY AT HOME message being repeated ad nauseum.

If you don't like movie lines, how about "risk acceptance" instead?

There's neither a need, nor option ultimately, to keep everyone confined to their homes/immediate areas long term.

There will be a period where people will live and work alongside this virus. The only question is how long it'll take for our Government to make that decision rather than continuing to push it out in the hopes someone/something else will make it for them

I don't accept a risk to my health or that of my family...life is too important to play this sort of game and thankfully the government is aware of that.

I am certainly not saying that this situation is for the long term but a number of weeks are necessary to gauge the next steps.

The hoardes arriving...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ElaineEgan_/status/1248968204141068288?s=04

Thelonious Monk

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

On a local level , if GAA is your thing imagine the lads/lasses fitness level after this . Only so much can be done in one's own.
My son is suffering because the lack of a gym.

Well at least everyone will be on the same playing field. I got this pull up bar thing that fits into a door frame a couple of weeks ago, you can do loads of stuff with it, it's part of my try not to go crazy stuck indoors routine now.

Jenbach110

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It won't go till August, the populace won't tolerate a lock down of that duration.

If the death remains as low as it is over the next 7 days, surely the restrictions will be revised?

Its basically a month of extra restrictions just in case

alwald wrote: »

Well you couldn't/wouldn't dig deep into you comments earlier hence my reply.
I am enjoying my beers! Thanks!

Your comment makes no sense, gald you are enjoying your beer .Maybe get back to me when you are sober.

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The simple fact is the country won't be able to afford to keep to the current health system with the lockdown in 6 months time, August weekend things will be relaxed no matter what happens between now and then.

It won't go till August, the populace won't tolerate a lock down of that duration.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Cool retort if I was actually responding to you. Enjoy your beer.

Well you couldn't/wouldn't dig deep into you comments earlier hence my reply.
I am enjoying my beers! Thanks!

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

The Match of the Day the BBC put together and the program after it with the Keane V Viera tunnel battle was pretty good. These restrictions are going to have a huge impact on football. I wonder if older players like Ronaldo will play again... or Glenn Whelan?

On a local level , if GAA is your thing imagine the lads/lasses fitness level after this . Only so much can be done in one's own.
My son is suffering because the lack of a gym.

The simple fact is the country won't be able to afford to keep to the current health system with the lockdown in 6 months time, August weekend things will be relaxed no matter what happens between now and then.

alwald wrote: »

Ha you are certainly not worth the effort either...back to my delicious beers!!

Cool retort if I was actually responding to you. Enjoy your beer.

_Kaiser_

alwald wrote: »

Well I am glad that governments across the world are not relying on movie lines to make decisions that can influence lives and deaths...the rest is irrelevant.

What's irrelevant is the hyperbole and hysteria from some on this topic - almost as if they can't see beyond the simple STAY AT HOME message being repeated ad nauseum.

If you don't like movie lines, how about "risk acceptance" instead?

There's neither a need, nor option ultimately, to keep everyone confined to their homes/immediate areas long term.

There will be a period where people will live and work alongside this virus. The only question is how long it'll take for our Government to make that decision rather than continuing to push it out in the hopes someone/something else will make it for them

Jenbach110

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Ultimately, in order to keep countries, economies and societies functioning it will come down to a line from the original Star Trek movies.

"the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

People need to work and interact. Not just for economic reasons but for mental health, social reasons and others. The vast majority of these people will (thankfully) not suffer any lasting effects if they do contract this virus.

They need to be allowed back to work from the 5th April, if not before. The current restrictions will ultimately solve nothing long term insofar as prevention or cure. All it's doing is protecting the health service which is a legitimate reason, but again needs to be weighed against the longer term impact of locking people in for weeks and (if some here had their way) months.

Those who are at risk will need to maintain the current restrictions for their own safety. They should continue to be supported in every way possible to facilitate their being able to do this.

But the rest of us need to get back at it, before there's very little to get back to.

I think your right.

I would feel more confident right now, guided by an economist in a boardroom than a doctor who has reregistered.

Cupatae

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Feel free to post any snide remarks I have made.

Nah.. as others have said, i dont think you re worth the effort

Also please refrain from commenting on my posts :pac::pac::D:D

Cupatae wrote: »

Yeah didnt think you d have the guts to say it out, when gettin called on it. Stick to snide remarks.

Feel free to post any snide remarks I have made.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Ultimately, in order to keep countries, economies and societies functioning it will come down to a line from the original Star Trek movies.

"the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

People need to work and interact. Not just for economic reasons but for mental health, social reasons and others. The vast majority of these people will (thankfully) not suffer any lasting effects if they do contract this virus.

They need to be allowed back to work from the 5th April, if not before. The current restrictions will ultimately solve nothing long term insofar as prevention or cure. All it's doing is protecting the health service which is a legitimate reason, but again needs to be weighed against the longer term impact of locking people in for weeks and (if some here had their way) months.

Those who are at risk will need to maintain the current restrictions for their own safety. They should continue to be supported in every way possible to facilitate their being able to do this.

But the rest of us need to get back at it, before there's very little to get back to.

Well I am glad that governments across the world are not relying on movie lines to make decisions that can influence lives and deaths...the rest is irrelevant.

_Kaiser_

Ultimately, in order to keep countries, economies and societies functioning it will come down to a line from the original Star Trek movies.

"the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

People need to work and interact. Not just for economic reasons but for mental health, social reasons and others. The vast majority of these people will (thankfully) not suffer any lasting effects if they do contract this virus.

They need to be allowed back to work from the 5th April, if not before. The current restrictions will ultimately solve nothing long term insofar as prevention or cure. All it's doing is protecting the health service which is a legitimate reason, but again needs to be weighed against the longer term impact of locking people in for weeks and (if some here had their way) months.

Those who are at risk will need to maintain the current restrictions for their own safety. They should continue to be supported in every way possible to facilitate their being able to do this.

But the rest of us need to get back at it, before there's very little to get back to.