TheCitizen wrote: » There's loads of sensationalism on this thread, I'm hoping that sort of panic stricken sensationalism will have zero effect on the decision makers in this country and in Europe. Trump is an absolute bollocks and I'm going to call him that every time he comes out with that sort of crap and I don't see why you have an issue with that if it's the case you brand him a headcase yourself? I'm putting him up there in an attempt to illustrate the need to not sensationalise this issue and to not give in to alarmist and panic stricken prognostications of the long term economy that we've seen on this thread. We need to support our health service, give it time to tool up and then put the economy back into action. We need to keep our heads, we don't need Trump like bullshít, that's the last thing we need and there's been plenty of it in this thread.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » No Ireland has not taken that approach.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » But what's the alternative to that?! It's either cocoon the people at most risk until it's safe enough for them to rejoin society, or make everyone stay at home for that length of time. It's not about whether it's 'fair' or not, it's about trying to keep as many people alive as possible while also keeping the country running as best as possible. How else do you think it's going to work? There's absolutely no logic behind anything you say, honestly.
TheCitizen wrote: » Are you saying that's the approach being taken in Ireland? That's not the case at all. More bollocksology.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » Somewhere that hasn't taken the 'if you think of the economy your a big selfish prick approach' and actually taken it into consideration.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » I really don't see what relevance it has other than for you to bang on about how rubbish he is. Yes he sensationalises things. As he's done since before he even got elected with other issues. I mean are you surprised? The blokes a headcase yet you always bring him up for no reason at all, other than to lead a charge of guilt by association. I've seen none of this Trump-esque 'bollocksology'. I see you talking of fan boys again also though haha!
CtevenSrowder wrote: » The question is, as it's always been in these discussions, is for how long can the current restrictions remain until they become counter productive. I fail to see what random clips of trump add to answering that question.
TheCitizen wrote: » Obsessed with Trump? bloody nonsense. He happens to be the President of perhaps the biggest most powerful country in the world, are we supposed to ignore him just so the likes of you can't throw out that "you're obsessed" nonsense? There is no need to sensationalise this issue. We concentrate on the immediate medical emergency and when the situation is under the control of the health service and our health service won't suffer a meltdown, you then make a call on restarting the economy and getting people's lives back on track. Trump will sensationalise it, that's the way he operates and it's the sort of unnecessarily aggressive and panic stricken bollocksology that some posters on this thread are coming out with. Well done, ye sound like a bunch of Trump fanboys.
Del Griffith wrote: » Chances of infection on a trip like that? Assuming he's driving and it's left outside or social distance practiced, next to none. I don't get the outrage
gmisk wrote: » People in Ireland still taking the p#ss with journeys. Some guy caught going from Tipperary to limerick to buy a ....trampoline...
castletownman wrote: » Unless every single person you seen pictured on social media, by someone with clearly nothing better to do than twitch curtains, stopped and talked face-to-face with everyone they encounter, for the required time it is said for the virus to spread, then I think you are being slightly over-dramatic.
Logan Roy wrote: » Lads its such a nice day outside, why are ye on here arguing?
CtevenSrowder wrote: » Still obsessed with Trump I see. You should move over after this and just give in to your obsession.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Emigrate to where exactly? Unlike past economic recessions over the last 90 years this time the whole world is in the same leaking boat.
TheCitizen wrote: » The panic merchants on here must be proud of themselves, they're talking the same crap as the ultimate gobshíte Trump.https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1248701417260568576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1248701417260568576&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huddleboard.net%2Fhb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1438928
Idbatterim wrote: » Suffer with then destroy economy , leading to weidate cuts for pensioners and possibly emigration of their kids and / or grand kids ... great outcome !
KiKi III wrote: » I haven’t proposed anything in my last couple of posts, all I’ve done is express surprise that you’re willing to put 25%+ of the population through cocooning for 18 months considering you’ve described it as not living at all. Do you not see the hypocrisy in condemning huge numbers of people to a fate you couldn’t stand yourself? It’s a real lack of empathy on display. “I can’t stand this for three more weeks, but Mary down the road with cancer and John who’s 72 should do it for a year and a half.” As for your usual dramatic statements like “There are literally no other options”, well, we’re seeing New Zealand, South Korea, Sweden, Spain, the US etc are all taking different approaches so the idea that there’s only one option we have to take is clearly ridic.
Phoebas wrote: » It's called society.
Thespoofer wrote: » Was wondering about this type of situation, does the ordinary Joe/Mary soap see the benefits of this ( as in more money in their pocket?) or how does it work?
lainey_d_123 wrote: » But what's your solution? Just because people who are high risk are going to find this horrible, everyone else should have to suffer with them?
lainey_d_123 wrote: » It's not about me! Why do you just not get this? I've already said another few weeks is fine, but what about after that, and you keep going on like a broken record and ignoring the question. The economy cannot take everyone sitting at home for 18 months. People need to be working and paying into the healthcare system and keeping things running, or the entire country will just collapse. The people who CAN work will be helping to pay for support and healthcare for the people who can't. It's not as if risking getting covid-19 every single time you leave the house is exactly utopia, is it? Everyone will have a sh1tty time for the next year or two, but what are you proposing? Everyone has to stay inside for 18 months so it's 'fair'? Do you think there's a magic money tree somewhere?
KiKi III wrote: » Can you just clarify what your position is on the mental health of older people? Because you’ve been such a passionate advocate for your own right to protect your mental health that I would have expected you to be able to extend some compassion to people in different age groups who are fighting the same battles?
KiKi III wrote: » I haven’t proposed anything in my last couple of posts, all I’ve done is express surprise that you’re willing to put 25%+ of the population through cocooning for 18 months considering you’ve described it as not living at all.Do you not see the hypocrisy in condemning huge numbers of people to a fate you couldn’t stand yourself? It’s a real lack of empathy on display. “I can’t stand this for three more weeks, but Mary down the road with cancer and John who’s 72 should do it for a year and a half.” As for your usual dramatic statements like “There are literally no other options”, well, we’re seeing New Zealand, South Korea, Sweden, Spain, the US etc are all taking different approaches so the idea that there’s only one option we have to take is clearly ridic.
