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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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Cupatae

Deleted User wrote: »

The length of any lockdown

It will be on there advice as has been done already.

[Deleted User]

Cupatae wrote: »

what wont?

The length of any lockdown

jlm29

Masala wrote: »

Hell... I desperately need a haircut. Wife says she’ll give it a lash.. but am not that desperate.

When are the barbers due back?????

Had a go at my 8 year olds hair today. Only realised after I started just how blunt the scissors was. It’s a good job he’s not going anywhere for the foreseeable

I looked on boots website for one of those clippers thingys the barber uses, but there’s none to be had

Cupatae

Deleted User wrote: »

It won’t be decided by the medical experts. It will be decided by the politicians, weighing up the medical, economic and social factors

what wont?

[Deleted User]

Cupatae wrote: »

Highly intelligent medical experts the world over recommend a lock down, but JRants, deems it as draconian and unnecessary... i know who ill be listening to anyway.

It won’t be decided by the medical experts. It will be decided by the politicians, weighing up the medical, economic and social factors

Cupatae

thebaz wrote: »

well they are a little concerned in Hungary right now - not sure they are laughing lmao

Also i believe the situation is abit different to us there, "Prime Minister Viktor Orban given the power to rule by decree"

Downlinz

Masala wrote: »

Hell... I desperately need a haircut. Wife says she’ll give it a lash.. but am not that desperate.

When are the barbers due back?????

Autumn maybe. You should let the wife have a crack at it

Cupatae

thebaz wrote: »

well they are a little concerned in Hungary right now - not sure they are laughing lmao

we were originally talking about Ireland not Hungary tho were we not?

Cupatae

JRant wrote: »

We've never had such draconian restrictions before in this country either. I doubt the army would be used in all honesty. If it got to that stage the government have already lost the battle.

Highly intelligent medical experts the world over recommend a lock down, but JRants, deems it as draconian and unnecessary... i know who ill be listening to anyway.

Masala

Hell... I desperately need a haircut. Wife says she’ll give it a lash.. but am not that desperate.

When are the barbers due back?????

irishproduce

donaghs wrote: »

Nope, you could also quarantine new arrivals. Again, at the early stage politically difficult.

Ireland produces far more.food than we consume. We export almost all food produced here.

thebaz

Cupatae wrote: »

An coup next.... :pac::pac: hows that gonna work exactly lmao

well they are a little concerned in Hungary right now - not sure they are laughing lmao

thebaz

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Large scale rioting and looting during Storm Emma? Other than what happened at one Lidl store I don`t recall any other incidences of this.

I know that wasnt large scale, just feared that if we had a long lockdown would cause more severe looting , than happened at Lidl. - words didnt come out right - long day !!

Cupatae

thebaz wrote: »

it is not a lax lockdown - in general Irish people have behaved well, most I have seen social distance and are respecful and keep the laws - yes a few idiots (the spitters) - but I thought we could have large scale rioting and looting by now, like 2 yers ago - that has not happened -

The Army on the street enforcing the law of an unstable Government would be a terrible scenario, right and left wing coup d'etats have happened before - so be careful what you wish for, I value my freedom.

An coup next....

:pac::pac: hows that gonna work exactly lmao

Tenzor07

MOH wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/its-bittersweet-business-is-up-by-25pc-but-we-dont-want-to-benefit-in-this-way-off-licences-buckle-up-for-busy-weekend-39119774.html

Cigarette sellers have said it plays a vital role in calming the nerves of the nation so it's an essential service to maintain full sales of all tobacco products....:rolleyes:

MOH

thebaz wrote: »

it is not a lax lockdown - in general Irish people have behaved well, most I have seen social distance and are respecful and keep the laws - yes a few idiots (the spitters) - but I thought we could have large scale rioting and looting by now, like 2 yers ago - that has not happened -

The Army on the street enforcing the law of an unstable Government would be a terrible scenario, right and left wing coup d'etats have happened before - so be careful what you wish for, I value my freedom.

Most people I know with a modicum of common sense were effectively observing the current lockdown rules (apart from maybe the 2k limit) for at least a week, maybe two, before they were officailly brought in. So close to a month into self-isolation at this stage.

Anyone at this point going "ah sure it's only been a couple of weeks" are probably the same ones who were wedged solid into the supermarkets panic buying and infecting each other right up until lockdown rules had to be made official.
So it's no wonder they'd welcome the army, they wouldn't have a clue how to protect themselves otherwise.

Cork Boy 53

thebaz wrote: »

it is not a lax lockdown - in general Irish people have behaved well, most I have seen social distance and are respecful and keep the laws - yes a few idiots (the spitters) - but I thought we could have large scale rioting and looting by now, like 2 years ago - that has not happened -

The Army on the street enforcing the law of an unstable Government would be a terrible scenario, right and left wing coup d'etats have happened before - so be careful what you wish for, I value my freedom.

Large scale rioting and looting during Storm Emma? Other than what happened at one Lidl store I don`t recall any other incidences of this.

thebaz

BanditLuke wrote: »

Given the way people here are reacting after a couple of weeks of very lax lockdown i wouldn't be surprised to see the army out on the streets to enforce measures within a week or two.

it is not a lax lockdown - in general Irish people have behaved well, most I have seen social distance and are respecful and keep the laws - yes a few idiots (the spitters) - but I thought we could have large scale rioting and looting by now, like 2 yers ago - that has not happened -

The Army on the street enforcing the law of an unstable Government would be a terrible scenario, right and left wing coup d'etats have happened before - so be careful what you wish for, I value my freedom.

Loafing Oaf

JRant wrote: »

We've never had such draconian restrictions before in this country either. I doubt the army would be used in all honesty. If it got to that stage the government have already lost the battle.

Yeah people defying the restrictions will rarely be doing it in the kind of overtly confrontational way that the army would be well suited to handle. Not like lads holding illicit house parties are going to barricade themselves in and start throwing petrol bombs...

MOH

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/its-bittersweet-business-is-up-by-25pc-but-we-dont-want-to-benefit-in-this-way-off-licences-buckle-up-for-busy-weekend-39119774.html

off licences “play an important role in the fight against COVID-19 by reducing queues and overcrowding in the supermarket and mixed-trade settings”.

Ace2007

Greentopia wrote: »

I wasn't ranting. I was explaining with the benefit of my own experience what it's actually like to do that kind of work. The dole reference is on relation to the above comment and I'm in agreement that most would rather keep their dole than work for peanuts doing such back breaking work if it was forced on them. Doing it by choice is a different matter.

And I agreed and said it's laudable to want to help out, as would I if asked.

I only mentioned to dole because I was replying to Jurgen

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

So not only are you forcing people into work which would make them worse off financially than the dole you are spreading it like wildfire amongst the workers

irishproduce

Tandey wrote: »

Primary school teachers most certainly are off.

TBF primary teachers are at the lower end of the teaching heirarchy.
Serious teachers of second level and private school types are working.

Tenzor07

JRant wrote: »

We've never had such draconian restrictions before in this country either. I doubt the army would be used in all honesty. If it got to that stage the government have already lost the battle.

If I would have told you back in January that we'd all be confined to our homes unless for a very good reason, not allowed to go to work or for a pint you'd of said I was mad...

JRant

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Not a chance will the army be out. Has the army ever been deployed? I remember the recession there were rumours but it didn't happen.

We've never had such draconian restrictions before in this country either. I doubt the army would be used in all honesty. If it got to that stage the government have already lost the battle.

Plumbthedepths

BanditLuke wrote: »

Given the way people here are reacting after a couple of weeks of very lax lockdown i wouldn't be surprised to see the army out on the streets to enforce measures within a week or two.

You'll be disappointed if you are hoping for that to come to pass.

Plumbthedepths

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Not a chance will the army be out. Has the army ever been deployed? I remember the recession there were rumours but it didn't happen.

Back up to the Garda during the troubles and cash escort which they no longer do. They have a role called aid to the civil power. Only deployed during strikes, flooding, adverse weather events .

Tenzor07

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Not a chance will the army be out. Has the army ever been deployed? I remember the recession there were rumours but it didn't happen.

They've been deployed to support civilian services back in the 1980's.
And were deployed along the border in the 1970's also.

BanditLuke

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Not a chance will the army be out. Has the army ever been deployed? I remember the recession there were rumours but it didn't happen.

Given the way people here are reacting after a couple of weeks of very lax lockdown i wouldn't be surprised to see the army out on the streets to enforce measures within a week or two.

Tenzor07

JRant wrote: »

I presume the poster means people will just start ignoring restrictions en mass at that stage.
Schools should open again at the start of May, along with most other businesses. Increased Personal hygiene and masks should also become widespread at that stage.

Exactly, there's not enough Gardai or jail cells to host all who after 5+weeks of lockdown may want to commence 2 or 5km beyond the limits for instance, never mind anything else...

Padre_Pio

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I don't think any Irish government even a temporary one would risk deploying armed soldiers against their own citizens.
The army is not trained for a policing role.

Not a chance will the army be out. Has the army ever been deployed? I remember the recession there were rumours but it didn't happen.