Plumbthedepths wrote: » So just push the economy over a cliff? What outcomes do you think the health service will deliver in a depression style environment. We have seen what it delivers in an age of austerity .
Penfailed wrote: » Yep. Nothing the Irish government will do can change that.
Blueshoe wrote: » Low risk of dying group still can catch and spread the virus. Imagine an office of young people. They are working away and different individuals become infected and start spreading it around between each other, when they shop, when they are out and about. You are not solving anything by allowing people who might not die from the virus to go back to work as per normal. You are actually allowing the virus to spread again. Not a hope in hell of the government risking that.
Blueshoe wrote: » Excuse me?
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » If restrictions are lifted too soon before a vaccine is developed the annual death toll would be far higher than 10000. You could multiply that figure by a factor of 7 or 8.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » The IMF has described what is coming as the biggest economic shock since the Great Depression.https://m.economictimes.com/news/economy/indicators/covid-19-imf-anticipates-sharply-negative-economic-growth-fallout-since-the-great-depression/articleshow/75067158.cms
Ace2007 wrote: » Do you trust that journalist knows the difference between median and average given how few on here do? What source do they quoted for their figures For example Tony states that the age range for all deaths is from 32 to 105. So that means that are young people dying - but that’s not getting reported here - all I read about is the elderly dying
lord quackinton wrote: » The actions taken by this government is what is causing our economy to implode I will say what the majority of people believe but won’t say It is a Recession we are entering but it has the potential to be a long term economic depression Public sector employees and those on social welfare this time will receive huge live changing cuts You think 2008 was bad, what is coming this year could be widespread panic Take the question you asked and flip it on yourself My answer is 10,000 lives annually is acceptable if it means we can save our economy and our country and our children’s future
Cupatae wrote: » They had a choice to make, protect the people or protect the economy, they chose the people, and rightly so imo we can always rebuild.. look at the UK tried to protect the economy and are paying a high price for it now.
Penfailed wrote: » What would you rather? More deaths and a booming economy? The world is going to enter a recession regardless of what Leo and the lads do.
Cupatae wrote: » Personally i find it a great way to learn, getting proven wrong on something, but i guess people have to be atleast willing to be wrong.
citysights wrote: » Jeez must be long day for you, posting ad naseum the same stuff all day. Walk in your garden would do wonders for your mental health. Fresh air and relaxation.
thebaz wrote: » and to clarify from todays figures from Irish Times :- Good Friday fatalities bring Covid-19 toll to 288 – with average age of today’s deaths 85 (states median was also 85
NIMAN wrote: » I can't tell, is she for or against those holding such parties? The fact she has unelected in bold, and uses terms like defiance suggests she is on their side.
Tell me how wrote: » Do you have any idea how ridiculous this makes you sound? I countered several of your points and so you ask me to stop doing so, even going so far as to send me PM's on it. Do you really think that that is how discussion boards should work? Do you think it should be possible that someone comes in with a batsh*t crazy idea and responds to everyone who calls them out on it by asking them to stop doing so? You are further weakening the poor arguments you are making by showing your inability to engage on here. I don't care if you answer my posts, I post as much for others to see I disagree (or agree, if that were the case) with content someone has posted as I do to get a response from that poster.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » It's being mooted in several countries.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/immunity-passports-could-speed-up-return-to-work-after-covid-19
donaghs wrote: » The lockdown won’t make it go away - it will reduce and prolong it. There won’t be a vaccine this year. We need to look at incremental returns to work, by the low risk group.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Just one person and I gave my reason on thread as to why I was making the request , nothing wrong with making a polite request. Strange though that you would have to make the request 5 times, don't you think?
pjohnson wrote: » Christ above.... immunity "certs and badges" The lockdown really is causing some bizarre ideas haha
Blueshoe wrote: » People cannot just get back to work and potentially continue to spread the virus. Until new infections dry up almost completely there will be no return to normality