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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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JoeCole26

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Listening to Tony Holohan, the restrictions will not be lifted until the testing turnaround times are brought down to less than 24 hours to aid contact tracing and real time reporting.

There is a long way to go yet considering people are currently waiting up to 10 days for test results.

Surely we are way past the stage of contact tracing when we are getting into the multiple hundreds of reported cases a day? How is it even possible to contact all people who may have come into contact with someone who has tested positive here. It's obvious what is going on - Delay delay delay as long as possible until somehow we can build up health supplies and manage the number of ICU bed etc. But the problem is we will never be at a stage where we will be able to cope with demand nor can we cope with the dragged out process.

Only solution imo is to do 2/3 weeks of isolation, 2/3 weeks of soft openings for most shops and repeat the cycle. Over 70s must cocoon until the end of June.

Seems to me the Government have no long term strategy here. Constantly saying "it's changing everyday, it's unprecedented etc." is not helping the fact they should have a clear 3/6/12month plan loosely outlined already. That's what I would be focusing on.

the_pen_turner

VinLieger wrote: »

They cant let people get ideas about May bank holiday like they did with easter, its the only option

that's true I suppose. but the people stupid enough to go galivanting around like that are not going to respect these restricions anyway

VinLieger

the_pen_turner wrote: »

im supprised at 3 weeks. desperately needed but a lot harder to accept than 2 weeks and then another week .

They cant let people get ideas about May bank holiday like they did with easter, its the only option

Pretzill

3 more weeks will be tough particularly for those cocooning (not all over 70) and for those of us whose jobs may have been terminally affected.

I do see some light at the end of the tunnel though and hope that will be true in three weeks time. Maybe this thread could be closed until then?

GooglePlus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have been one of the doom & gloom merchants from the outset of the situation in China, I saw all this coming, wasn’t popular among people I know for my forecast. However, I do see light at the end of the tunnel. I believe that readily available and reliable antibody tests are going to be one major key to our freedom. Watching a documentary program I recorded last night, I can see development of this test is being speeded along, and one morning we will wake up to the news of its availability. It’s administration is likely to be under plan already, so as soon as it’s announced it will be likely less than two weeks before we can access it. Would likely be initially offered to those in frontline, then to those who had previously experienced symptoms, followed by others. Those who test antibody positive and totally clear of symptoms for over two weeks are likely to be allowed full freedoms by wearing a badge.

I hear you'll have to wear a star on your arm.

VinLieger

Greentopia wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't care if they all closed and never re-opened, but downside is of course people would lose their jobs.

And one of the few outlets people have left would be gone, your pious, ivory tower arrogance is disgusting

[Deleted User]

I have been one of the doom & gloom merchants from the outset of the situation in China, I saw all this coming, wasn’t popular among people I know for my forecast. However, I do see light at the end of the tunnel. I believe that readily available and reliable antibody tests are going to be one major key to our freedom. Watching a documentary program I recorded last night, I can see development of this test is being speeded along, and one morning we will wake up to the news of its availability. It’s administration is likely to be under plan already, so as soon as it’s announced it will be likely less than two weeks before we can access it. Would likely be initially offered to those in frontline, then to those who had previously experienced symptoms, followed by others. Those who test antibody positive and totally clear of symptoms for over two weeks are likely to be allowed full freedoms by wearing a badge.

Sierra Oscar

Listening to Tony Holohan, the restrictions will not be lifted until the testing turnaround times are brought down to less than 24 hours to aid contact tracing and real time reporting.

There is a long way to go yet considering people are currently waiting up to 10 days for test results.

Greentopia

castletownman wrote: »

I'd say your the life and soul at parties. BYOB of course.

Ah the standard Irish response to anyone who doesn't really give a sh1te about alcohol.
How long did it take you to think that one up?

Indeed I'm not at all the life and soul of a party I'm sure you'll be glad to know. But then I don't place any value on being so being a quiet introvert, and my fiancé and friends love me for who I am.

the_pen_turner

im supprised at 3 weeks. desperately needed but a lot harder to accept than 2 weeks and then another week .

[Deleted User]

polesheep wrote: »

Three weeks won't hold. Certain elements of the restrictions can me maintained that are within the governments control, such as closing most places of employment, but the breakdown will begin with those people who cause trouble at the best of times and will spread from there. If they had announced two weeks they might have got away with it, but three more weeks won't wash. One to two weeks and asking people to double down would have been better.

Don't believe you're right. Also realistically don't want loads going out for a bank holiday weekend.

niallo27

Amia Thundering Engineer wrote: »

Did Leo mention anything about what will happen after the 5th of May

No more fluff, absolutely clueless.

Cork Boy 53

brutes1 wrote: »

No plan obviously . No proposals. No future

I wonder what the over 70s think, have they been asked or are they just to be treated as antiques locked away ?

I know two over 70s who live near me and have asked them this. While obviously they would prefer not to have the restrictions in place they understand the need for them and have no intention of violating them.

martingriff

Amia Thundering Engineer wrote: »

Did Leo mention anything about what will happen after the 5th of May

Nobody knows yet. They are looking for the 48 hour turn around and hope it will happen. Who knows if they get it down before then there could be a relaxation sooner

keybordWarrior

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Well, theres the plan. Kick the can down the road, make no decisions and point to evidence of others. Cowards.

Stupidest post so far.

polesheep

Three weeks won't hold. Certain elements of the restrictions can me maintained that are within the governments control, such as closing most places of employment, but the breakdown will begin with those people who cause trouble at the best of times and will spread from there. If they had announced two weeks they might have got away with it, but three more weeks won't wash. One to two weeks and asking people to double down would have been better.

brutes1

timmy_mallet wrote: »

It's never going away, look at the posters here, slathering themselves in the misery, delighted by it.

Theres a point at which, 5th May, unfortunately they'll be forced to back down and have to deal with the death.

No plan obviously . No proposals. No future

I wonder what the over 70s think, have they been asked or are they just to be treated as antiques locked away ?

timmy_mallet

Well, theres the plan. Kick the can down the road, make no decisions and point to evidence of others. Cowards.

timmy_mallet

Amia Thundering Engineer wrote: »

Did Leo mention anything about what will happen after the 5th of May

Yeah, 1st of May, press conf., "just another 2 weeks, aren't you great, so proud to he irish"

martingriff

I was thinking it be 2 and not 3 but no overly surprised

timmy_mallet

[Deleted User] wrote: »

At least they gave started with a provisional plan for the schools

Ha. At least double any lockdown plan date. LC will not happen.

timmy_mallet

Simon Harris, blimey, like hes talking to a Montessori class. Aren't you just soooooo happy you saved a life.

[Deleted User]

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Another 21 days of restrictions

Apparently they are working on a plan

Not convincing in that regard

At least they gave started with a provisional plan for the exam classes of schools

never_mind

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Another 21 days of restrictions

Apparently they are working on a plan

Not convincing in that regard

What kinda plan?

Micky 32

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Meat is absolutely non-essential.

True, can even cause bowel cancer. However there’s a nice cut going on the pan very shortly ;-)

helimachoptor

Was always going to be 3 weeks, would be insane to relax before a Bank Holiday

timmy_mallet

PTH2009 wrote: »

jesus christ

This is now a much harder challenge

It's never going away, look at the posters here, slathering themselves in the misery, delighted by it.

Theres a point at which, 5th May, unfortunately they'll be forced to back down and have to deal with the death.

Tenzor07

3 more fiorkin' weeks of lock in, and no guarantee that will be the last of it...

so over 5 weeks now since the country began shutdown

no light at the end of the tunnel!

salmocab

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

No surprise there. Was either going to be another 2 weeks or 3 weeks.

The bank holiday would probably be a bad time to have just lifted things from a social point of view

faceman

BanditLuke wrote: »

Good news and badly needed

If you’re celebrating an extension of a lockdown because we haven’t got a hold on containing the virus then that’s quite sad