Blueshoe wrote: » People cannot just get back to work and potentially continue to spread the virus. Until new infections dry up almost completely there will be no return to normality
Blueshoe wrote: » Until new infections dry up almost completely there will be no return to normality
stephenjmcd wrote: » Unfortunately that's not going to happen. It was said yesterday that a point will come whereby the virus wont be completely eradicated but that normal life will have to resume
Nermal wrote: » Then what? When the lockdown is lifted, we’re going to test everyone with symptoms, despite the fact that that half the people who have it don’t have any? Despite the fact that up to 30% of the time, we’ll get a false negative on the test? Then we’ll trace contacts through bars, restaurants, crowded public transport and cinemas? Someone needs to shout stop here. This is not a credible plan.
LessOutragePlz wrote: » We're hardly gonna be on lockdown for the month of May as well are we?
Poor_old_gill wrote: » What is a credible plan then though?
Pitch n Putt wrote: » We’re going to be with the current half arsed attempt of a lockdown indefinitely the way things are going. Two weeks so far no end in sight, thousands of non essential workplaces still open because they think I’ve found a loophole to stay open totally missing the point of what we as a country are trying to achieve. Now Simon Harris wants to open hardware stores so John and Mary can get paint etc to keep the occupied for a few weeks Chief medical officer says it’s a bad idea and he’s right, these places will be packed. Idiots online things for sale or free sites selling and looking for paint also the last two weeks asking where can I meet u I’m really stuck for this paint. People just stay at home and take the pain it would give us a chance of getting out of this so called lockdown.
timmy_mallet wrote: » The logical path this gets to is infinite lockdown. Congrats.
Blueshoe wrote: » The rate must be firmly below 1:1 before business as usual returns. If you bothered to watch the daily press conferences you might learn something .
Pete_Cavan wrote: » The vulnerable and high risk have to protect themselves in order to avoid it. There is very little the wider population can do for them, they have to protect themselves. Lockdown is an attempt to contain the virus, it does not eliminate it. The risk remains for these people until we either develop a vaccine or achieve herd immunity. The other 80+% of the population will have to earn a living and generate the economic activity required to pay for the health care the remainder will need.
donaghs wrote: » If it means saving the future, I think some categories of young healthy people, you can avoid the vulnerable, should go back to work - globally. If they spread the virus among themselves and recover (less than half will even have any symptoms), then that will speed to return to normality. There is 0.01% or so chance of death, but I think we need to be stoical about this, in order to prevent an even worse catastrophe in the form of a global Great Depression.
Carfacemandog wrote: » That sounds like little more than "fcuk 'em, don't care" if you're not even willing to think of ways to reduce their risk and exposure in the process. Your plan is basically to copy what the UK did initially, even after they saw how badly it failed and moved away from it. How do you expect that to result in better results?
timmy_mallet wrote: » Nolan said yesterday evening that if it wasnt 0 (zero) then no lifting of restrictions. De Gascun suggesting measures of social distancing to go on for a very long time. The medical professionals are telling you that this lockdown is not ending. What more do you need to hear to believe thay.
Blueshoe wrote: » You haven't thought this through.
donaghs wrote: » There are ways to help the elderly. Testing nursing home residents and staff. Have a system of identifying elderly without family or friend support, and arrange a contact system for food, medicines and other services.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » There are lots of steps between lockdown and "business as usual". Social distancing, continued work from home to the greatest extent possible, no mass gatherings, etc. will all remain for some time but a lot of people could still go back to work.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » The virus will continue to exist and people will continue to get infected. This is the reality everyone has to accept. Waiting for new infections to "dry up almost completely" means waiting for a vaccine to be developed, mass produced and administered to the population which is at least 18 months away at best. People are going to continue to get infected in all scenarios but the scenario that involves keeping everything shutdown also destroys the economy, results in significant deaths from other causes and does untold mental health damage.
Blueshoe wrote: » On another note the vhi still helped themselves to the monthly premium though which I am non too impressed about
Logan Roy wrote: » Thanks for chipping in with your thoughts
Blueshoe wrote: » You have gotten your wires crossed. I'm saying that restrictions are going nowhere. Others saying they must be lifted
