lainey_d_123 wrote: » I don't know why you're being so rude and patronising when you're the one with the massive comprehension problem. If you live in the inner city and are not permitted to go outside it in a car, then the 2km radius around your home is likely to be very busy and crowded, because it's.....a city. Read that back several times. Do you get it yet?
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Did you get your idea of family punishment from the abhorrent practice the Israeli IDF engages in called 'collective punishment' ?
briany wrote: » When they reopen the pubs, the thirst is going to be so mighty, that half the places around the country will be jammed before any responsible publican can even say, "But, please, observe the social distancing guidelines!" Staying 6 foot away from each other almost defeats the purpose of going to a pub on a Saturday night.
Cupatae wrote: » i got it from seeing people deliberately spitting on cops/healthcare workers to infect them and groups showing a complete disregard for everyone else.. some people only understand the boot unfortunately and the bleedin heart approach doesnt work too well with those kind, so ya them and there families if keep disregarding everyone elses safety there is real repercussions for them they might not be so quick with there scumbag behavior then.
Tell me how wrote: » This is getting ridiculous. Are you saying that that section of the city is comparably busy to before there were restrictions?
I mean, what is it that you want? More restrictions to reduce the crowd on inner city streets, or less restrictions because it is so challenging for people to live while being restricted? Because you seem to be simultaneously arguing for both. Or do you just want someone to say that this is tough, it is tough for everyone and it is tough for you but hopefully it won't last long.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Happily ideas as abhorrent as yours will never get further than this thread.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I wouldn't like the first pint of the black in my local. I might wait an extra day, allow for a 'good flow'.
Cupatae wrote: » Yeah i bet you are happy, says more about you than anything else, but who knows maybe there will be more severe punishment for scum.
Timistry wrote: » A proper drinker and a proper thinker
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Says nothing about me, I don't believe in collective punishment it's abhorrent and also against international law. Find someone else to have a row with.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » No! It's less busy than before. Why would I be saying otherwise? I'm saying that some of these regulations are actually making the problem worse for people in densely populated areas. If you can only go 2km from your home, then it's going to make the 2km around your home pretty dangerous if you can't go to the shop for food without people jogging and bumping into you. Lots of parks in London have reopened because of this - closing the green spaces just made it more dangerous and risky because of forcing everyone into a smaller and smaller area. It's not rocket science. I'm not even saying to get rid of restrictions, I'm saying to stop shaming people who live in urban areas and literally have no choice but to walk on a busy street to do what they need to do. Framing it as 'selfish' is absurd.
The council said it has developed a number of control measures to find a way to reopen the park to help support the mental health and wellbeing of residents. However, it remains possible that the park may shut again if people are seen to be ignoring social distancing rules.
Cupatae wrote: » You replied to me... not collective punishment just a way of prioritizing people, they are free to get care elsewhere or look after themselves or you know..just stop being scumbags... Maybe a few boots like this would sort a few aswell.
Nermal wrote: » https://bylinetimes.com/2020/04/09/leaked-home-office-call-reveals-uk-government-wants-economy-to-continue-running-as-we-will-all-get-covid-19-anyway/ UK government gradually facing up to reality: suppression will not work, lockdown must be ended, mitigation is the only plan that properly balances economic and public health outcomes. How long before the WHO figures it out?
ceadaoin. wrote: » Well today here in the US, the message is starting to shift away from lockdown and talk is about reopening in the coming weeks. Even the CDC director has been on CNN talking about certain areas who dont have significant numbers of cases getting back to school and work. They have also relaxed the guidelines about self isolation for 2 weeks after exposure down to 1 week. I think it will be a good while though before individuals feel comfortable going back to our old ways of non social distancing though.
Tell me how wrote: » Will be interesting to see what states do when compared with Federal guidelines. Trump is focused on economy first, some governors have already committed to keeping the current situation until early May where I am and I think I read somewhere that they had already guidelines in place until June.
ceadaoin. wrote: » Well the governor where I am has committed to April 30 at least. Honestly, after that though, a shutdown is pretty unsustainable. Hundreds of thousands of people are out of work already in my city, which depends on tourism (vegas). If it goes on into late May and June we're in big trouble.
Tell me how wrote: » I think the way things are going, there will be restrictions sooner rather than later. Trump is making a lot of noise about sports teams being ready and wanting to get back playing and if they get to that point then they might as well open the floodgates. Vegas would certainly be a place that would not want to be closed down for too long, but, health has to take priority. Time will tell.
niallo27 wrote: » Hopefully we will get some sort of timeline tommorrow, if they told us the numbers were at a certain level in 2 weeks then certain restrictions would be lifted, then people would listen and there would be a huge effort to cooperate but we know this wont happen. It will be just more clueless fluff with everyone terrified to make a decision. I know trump is a lunatic but is he any worse than the gutless shower we have.
SteM wrote: » The Irish economy is not in a bubble. We're tied to the world economy. If you think relaxing restrictions tomorrow will help our economy in anything other than short term then you're dreaming.
JoeCole26 wrote: » In my opinion, the simple fact of the matter is, sooner rather than later they are going to have to relax restrictions in order for the <60year old group to start contracting the virus and recovering. That is the only logic end to this saga - a combination of some sort of herd immunity and protecting the vunerable. Keeping tight restrictions in place for months on end isn't feasible from a mental health ,economic and virus management perspective. I think you will start to see a lifting of restrictions towards the end of May, with the majority of business back to normal by mid/end of July (pubs included) in order for schools to return in September and life to get back on track.
niallo27 wrote: » I know trump is a lunatic but is he any worse than the gutless shower we have.
Penfailed wrote: » The fact that, "the shower we have," aren't lunatics demonstrates that Trump is worse. C'mon. Trump is actually dangerous. He said the virus was a hoax at the start. Have you seen the stats for New York?
