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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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salmocab

BanditLuke wrote: »

You'll have no choice soon enough and I could care less if I'm tracked personally. This is far more important than my civil liberties.

This is simply not going to happen

KindOfIrish

Szero wrote: »

Everyone seems understandably focused on the FIRST restrictions that will be lifted.

Anyone willing to guess what the LAST restrictions will be lifted? i.e. things that might be in place until there is a vaccine in 12-18 months time.

I would guess that the last restrictions to be lifted will be:
- Work from home for roles where it is possible.
- Social distancing in queues / more spaced out restaurants.
- Cruise ship trips.
- Concerts.
- Large gatherings for sporting events.

I suspect that all of the above will be in place for at least a year.

All the restrictions will be lifted as soon as the state will have run out of money. And it will happen pretty soon. And there won't be a vaccine for Covid as it's mutate frequently.

Tell me how

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I have a very simple retort for you, YOU ARE NOT LIVING HERE so I suggest you save your smart comments and ignorance for those who may wish to humour you.

Have you not noticed that this is a global conversation. Notwithstanding that, my communication and concern for friends and family more than entitles me to take part in such a discussion.

Loafing Oaf

Szero wrote: »

Everyone seems understandably focused on the FIRST restrictions that will be lifted.

Anyone willing to guess what the LAST restrictions will be lifted? i.e. things that might be in place until there is a vaccine in 12-18 months time.

Card games (community ones involving 20+ people, mostly middle-aged/elderly). They must be the ultimate covid incubator.

ITman88

BanditLuke wrote: »

You'll have no choice soon enough and I could care less if I'm tracked personally. This is far more important than my civil liberties.

I sincerely hope only a small number of people share your opinion.

faceman

reg114 wrote: »

Honestly I see restaurants and pubs amongst the last businesses to reopen in a phased transition out of lockdown. Ultimately even if you control numbers entering a restaurant or pub, people are sitting in close proximity to each other for extended periods of time, throw in the added effect of gargle and any discipline will go out the window. Publicans are in for a long few months.

if its phased restrictions it will be about numbers rather than venues. The virus doesn't discriminate.

FixdePitchmark

So after exactly 500 cases today - is that the government using the data in a rounded way to get us ready for next restrictions.

What would be the next step - no outside activity , reduced shopping.

To be honest - I'd rather keep our 2 km and restrict the daft over shopping going on.

Logan Roy

niallo27 wrote: »

Not sure if your taking the piss or not.

Oh he’s serious alright.

Plumbthedepths

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

In the near future compulsory micro chipping of every person in the country with a tracking device will be technologically possible, actually it`s probably possible right now. Maybe done in conjunction with administration of a vaccine assuming one is developed.

Do you expect that comment to be taken seriously or have you spent too long reading 1984?

niallo27

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

In the near future compulsory micro chipping of every person in the country with a tracking device will be technologically possible, actually it`s probably possible right now. Maybe done in conjunction with administration of a vaccine assuming one is developed.

Not sure if your taking the piss or not.

Szero

Everyone seems understandably focused on the FIRST restrictions that will be lifted.

Anyone willing to guess what the LAST restrictions will be lifted? i.e. things that might be in place until there is a vaccine in 12-18 months time.

I would guess that the last restrictions to be lifted will be:
- Work from home for roles where it is possible.
- Social distancing in queues / more spaced out restaurants.
- Cruise ship trips.
- Concerts.
- Large gatherings for sporting events.

I suspect that all of the above will be in place for at least a year.

niallo27

flazio wrote: »

How many of you Android phone users still have "timeline" active on your Google maps? That'll show you quickly where you've been quite accurately.

Only if you used Google maps and followed a route, other than that it shouldht technically track you.

Plumbthedepths

Tell me how wrote: »

You can't even grasp the concept of how it is possible that an Irish person is capable of being aware, interested and knowledgeable on what is going on in Ireland right now so that actually goes some way to making me understand why you are not grasping the need for the current strategy.

I have a very simple retort for you, YOU ARE NOT LIVING HERE so I suggest you save your smart comments and ignorance for those who may wish to humour you.

niallo27

BanditLuke wrote: »

Why would you be out for a few hours Niallo? If working surely you can charge on the move?

Proper gps is hugely draining on the battery, I though this situation was for when some restrictions were lifted, this would be so that we could go out for a few hours I thought.

Cork Boy 53

niallo27 wrote: »

Your phone would probably be dead in a few hours, what do you do then. We will have a choice, there is no way they could enforce this.

In the near future compulsory micro chipping of every person in the country with a tracking device will be technologically possible, actually it`s probably possible right now. Maybe done in conjunction with administration of a vaccine assuming one is developed.

flazio

How many of you Android phone users still have "timeline" active on your Google maps? That'll show you quickly where you've been quite accurately.

Plumbthedepths

statesaver wrote: »

Where does he live, do you know ?

Irish but living in America by their own admission.

BanditLuke

niallo27 wrote: »

Your phone would probably be dead in a few hours, what do you do then. We will have a choice, there is no way they could enforce this.

Why would you be out for a few hours Niallo? If working surely you can charge on the move?

Cork Boy 53

nacho libre wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how the mask wearing plays out in a pub. The current restrictions will be lifted in 4 weeks or less, but i will be very surprised if pubs are allowed open at that stage, unless something dramatic happens whereby the number of cases are down to single figures, even then the risk is if you open everything up all at once we are at risk of a second wave. What's far more likely to happen is restrictions will be eased incrementally over the next two - three months.
It maybe at some point, assuming a vaccine isn't fast tracked or effect treatment found, we might have to reintroduce some restrictions.

Hopefully a vaccine or treatment does comes along soon, though, because elderly people, like my mother, will probably have to self- isolate/cocoon for two or three months at least, while the restrictions ease for the rest of us. It's a very tough ask, but there might be no choice.

Unless an effective vaccine is developed in the meantime the high risk groups will probably have to self isolate for at least the next 12 months.

niallo27

BanditLuke wrote: »

You'll have no choice soon enough and I could care less if I'm tracked personally. This is far more important than my civil liberties.

Your phone would probably be dead in a few hours, what do you do then. We will have a choice, there is no way they could enforce this.

BanditLuke

niallo27 wrote: »

Phone tracking wont work, very heavy on battery plus do you want your every step tracked. When is it safe to turn it off. I wont be installing it.

You'll have no choice soon enough and I could care less if I'm tracked personally. This is far more important than my civil liberties.

Logan Roy

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-ireland-varadkar-told-that-15000-tests-a-day-can-be-carried-out-39055060.html

Varadkar told that 15,000 tests a day can be carried out

They know exactly what they are doing though!

niallo27

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Researchers in Germany believe that current world confirmed cases represent only 6% of total infections

They believe the number of confirmed in the UK only represents 1.2% of their total infected :eek:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8204167/How-people-REALLY-infected-coronavirus.html

Hopefully, this would be fantastic news.

niallo27

tromtipp wrote: »

We aren't temperature screening, but the east asian countries that are containing CV are all doing it. Ditto phone tracking. Eventually the pressure to get the economy going again will lead us to places we couldn't have imagined three months ago.

Phone tracking wont work, very heavy on battery plus do you want your every step tracked. When is it safe to turn it off. I wont be installing it.

helimachoptor

reg114 wrote: »

Honestly I see restaurants and pubs amongst the last businesses to reopen in a phased transition out of lockdown. Ultimately even if you control numbers entering a restaurant or pub, people are sitting in close proximity to each other for extended periods of time, throw in the added effect of gargle and any discipline will go out the window. Publicans are in for a long few months.

Yeah I'd agree, will see a rise of back garden/ house parties which are probably gonna be the same result.

nacho libre

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

I think we'll see at most 4 weeks added to current lockdown

Then reopening of lots stuff bar large gatherings, spectator sports, pubs and restaurants with previous restrictions but I expect mandatory mask wearing to be added has to be once we get HSE supplies stocked, seeing as so many European nations are heading that way

It will be interesting to see how the mask wearing plays out in a pub. The current restrictions will be lifted in 4 weeks or less, but i will be very surprised if pubs are allowed open at that stage, unless something dramatic happens whereby the number of cases are down to single figures, even then the risk is if you open everything up all at once we are at risk of a second wave. What's far more likely to happen is restrictions will be eased incrementally over the next two - three months.
It maybe at some point, assuming a vaccine isn't fast tracked or effect treatment found, we might have to reintroduce some restrictions.

Hopefully a vaccine or treatment does comes along soon, though, because elderly people, like my mother, will probably have to self- isolate/cocoon for two or three months at least, while the restrictions ease for the rest of us. It's a very tough ask, but there might be no choice.

BanditLuke

tromtipp wrote: »

We aren't temperature screening, but the east asian countries that are containing CV are all doing it. Ditto phone tracking. Eventually the pressure to get the economy going again will lead us to places we couldn't have imagined three months ago.

Said it weeks ago now but it's farcical we've no temperature checks for people entering supermarkets and don't even get me started on the non wearing of masks. We arent taking this seriously enough at all. More sports being played up in my local park (deer park) this afternoon as I passed by people are as thick and ignorant as pig sh1t and we'll all pay the price with a longer lock down.

This weekend is going to be ground zero for further spread of the virus if the weather is good.

reg114

Deleted User wrote: »

Regarding restaurants reopening, my guess would be that they will initially have to donut in a booking only basis to ensure a that a maximum density isn’t exceeded. Don’t know how they would implement it, maybe on a basis of square footage of the restaurant dining area, number of staff required etc.

Honestly I see restaurants and pubs amongst the last businesses to reopen in a phased transition out of lockdown. Ultimately even if you control numbers entering a restaurant or pub, people are sitting in close proximity to each other for extended periods of time, throw in the added effect of gargle and any discipline will go out the window. Publicans are in for a long few months.

niallo27

Emmersonn wrote: »

Maybe it would speed up things if all "Old People" were euthanised. Would you consider it for yourself just for the good of the majority.

What a weird weird reply. Why would it be better for the majority if this happened.

[Deleted User]

ITman88 wrote: »

I was gone for an hour and Maggie has been assassinated on this thread by vigilante’s.

Post your parcel Maggie it’s 1.5 km from your house to where you need to go.

Vigilantism will not cure Covid,

Gosh what did I do to cause such ire?

Like you I went for a long walk , around and around and around in 2km (;)!!) and came back to a barage of comments about what I did!! It actually made me chuckle .

I work in essential services, live alone, my only 2 kids live abroad and I am very lonely. My trip to Vancouver to see my daughter and my little granddaughter is off, she will be 1 year old next month. I have seen her just once since her birth. I posted her a present today. Last time I checked Leo said it was ok for me to go to the shops. The Post Office is WITHIN the shop I was travelling to, right down at the back of it.

Honestly I think this crisis is bringing out the worst in people, not the best. The amount of self righteousness, spying, reporting, and judgment I have seen and heard about is astounding. We are all finding this tough, some more than others. What I did today was completely within my rights and completely within current restrictions. I put nobody at risk. The speed limit is 60km per hour the whole way in!!!!! I wasn't going to crash. I told the Garda I was going to the post office to post a parcel and he told me to have a nice day

I suggest a lot of people should get off Boards.ie and go for a nice calming walk within your 2km and take a lot of long deep breaths. Thanks for the supportive comments though.