Jurgen Klopp wrote: » Up to 86% of infections go unreported from a study of Wuhan adding more fuel to their fire about its asymptomatic naturehttps://www.mailman.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/stealth-transmission-fuels-fast-spread-coronavirus-outbreak Yet another coinciding with the Italian health ministry who believe they have 10 times more infected than their official figures, as well as Spain who have started to look at their 15 in every 16 are going undetected. Not to mention Iceland's study
Ace2007 wrote: » So you know for 100% that Maggie doesn't have the virus - she says that she is working - so you have to assume that is an essential service.... which given that she is out and about daily increases her chances of getting the virus than others who are staying at home. What happens in the parcel gets lost in postage - her family far away will not get it - pick up the phone and face time or Skype - that' more personal than sending a parcel, - what if the delivery person on the other side has the virus and passes onto her family? Most bank holidays we see road deaths - i'm hoping this year we don't, but what would be worse if an innocent person loses their lives on our roads, because someone wanted to do something that wasn't essential...
helimachoptor wrote: » Took the kids out for a walk, Theresa few football, gaa, rugby pitches near the house. About half a football team (7 or so) were out training with the coaches, doing drills and shooting practice.
jmayo wrote: » Oh FFS just give it a fooking rest. I come back to this thread every few hours and you're non stop waffling fooking shyte the whole time. And you are getting worse, you have gone now to claiming it's a grand conspiracy. Get off the net, read a book, go for a short walk (you can go 1.2 km and back, look out the window. Do something and stop spouting shtye. BTW remember how you used the example of my wife's cousin (ex ICU nurse who volunteered at hospital near her new home) earlier as pointer to how everything was ok with ICU, well she is starting Monday. Ah but sure you fooking know best, the ICUs are fine for space and for staff. Sure isn't it all a conspiracy to keep you from single handedly saving the economy. :rolleyes: Forget trying to reason with some around here. Some seem to think we can have a functioning economy despite this pandemic. Or else they couldn't give two sh**s and just don't want the inconvenience and the economy is just a pretense.
Diarmuid wrote: » You seem to be willfully missing the point. Tanking the economy will cost lives too. It's all a trade-off.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » I doubt it, although this situation is unprecedented, we don't have a history of unrest in this country, and given this could be a global worldwide depression, you can't really blame the government if we're all broke soon enough
FloatingVoter wrote: » My 80 year old aunt (living in Toronto) has taken up smoking. Due to being pissed off by the depressing current news (and Donald Trump is an underlying issue). Fair ****s.
Carfacemandog wrote: » Sure she'd probably fit in with her age group there then, an 80 year old today would've been in their 20s during the 1960s.
jmayo wrote: » Forget trying to reason with some around here. Some seem to think we can have a functioning economy despite this pandemic. Or else they couldn't give two sh**s and just don't want the inconvenience and the economy is just a pretense.
Carfacemandog wrote: » Looks like the Canadians have kept the weed shops open so....... Mind you it's legal over there to begin with!
road_high wrote: » Last opinion poll was fairly telling yes
TheCitizen wrote: » Should re open headshops as well. Time to Grow your own
easypazz wrote: » And you know this because?
Diarmuid wrote: » Up until they can't afford to pay the bills. Tunes will change then
ITman88 wrote: » Another poster alluded to it, the scariest thing about Covid is people’s lack of ability to think for themselves. On the other hand if you convince people something is bad enough, they will beg for protection at all costs. That’s what’s happening, people are so utterly petrified from the media whipping up a storm that they genuinely believe it is worth crippling the economy long term to prevent pain in the short term. They can’t see the wood from the trees with Covid. The wood form the trees will be quiet clear when social welfare benefit is cut and the health care budget is halved.
ITman88 wrote: » Ah FFS. Not a plan in the world. At some point, someone somewhere in Ireland needs to suggest an economic assessment. Media loving doctors will not preform that economic assessment.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Even if we opened everything up tomorrow, the economy is still a basket case with no one wanting to go out, and the rest of the world being in shutdown. This isn't solely down to the Irish Government's approach to the situation, it's a global economy and a global problem, so whatever we do here won't make much of a difference anyway, our GDP will be way down and unemployment skyrocketing.
Ace2007 wrote: » I believe 195 people have died in the hospitals, so that leaves what 40 that but have died in nursing homes or other settings
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Am I naive to think the vast majority of people will accept whatever the Government tells us we need to do until told otherwise?
d15ude wrote: » Because we are a free democratic society, and don't just need to do as we are told!
Idbatterim wrote: » yeah, might well have SF with the most seats if given another shot though!
Plumbthedepths wrote: » The 62% under 54 going to hospital how many have died. The biggest problem here if you ignore the lack of testing is despite being aware of the most at risk demographic from the Italian experience our CMO railled at the nursing homes restricting visitors. The homes should have closed no visitors and no contract staff moving between homes. Now you do know where the majority clusters and deaths have occurred I take it?