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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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Plumbthedepths

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Those civil servants are manning the jammed phonelines regarding welfare payments and risking their lives for your coffee break.

How is someone answering a phone risking their life?

never_mind

Trying to compare what’s going on to the AIDS pandemic is a bit of a reach. In many ways that was far worse and far more stigmatising and millions died. However, the initial handling of AIDS saw people avoiding shaking hands with gay men and avoiding being near them. As we learn more about Covid we might better understand transmission and where once you wouldn’t even dream of kissing a Poz person we now know it’s hard to transmit that way.

Plumbthedepths

lastusername wrote: »

How did you make it through those two?! I was saying above we're talking about in our time

There are still people alive from the Spanish flu era.
Btw you claimed the virus affects the young the same as the elderly. (My response was in reply to your claim of unprecedented pandemic which is untrue. Feel free to move the goal posts however.)
Are you aware of the median age of mortality due to the virus?

Cork Boy 53

ITman88 wrote: »

Very hard to know, judging by some of the posters suggestions on here, he could be senior hurling by the time we are out of the police state

If you think that the restrictions we have now are evidence of a "police state" then you should take a look at what was implemented in China and Singapore after the virus started to take hold there.

FloatingVoter

ITman88 wrote: »

Ah FFS Kiki I’m after spitting out my coffee with that statement

Those civil servants are manning the jammed phonelines regarding welfare payments and risking their lives for your coffee break.

CrabRevolution

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nope, Black death , Spanish Flu just to name two previous pandemic outbreaks.

Generally if the best answer you can come up with involves saying something isn't as bad as the Black Death, you're on a pretty shaky footing....

timmy_mallet

Nermal wrote: »

Christ. Someone take him aside and tell him that in two weeks, we'll be exactly like we are now but €1.7B poorer.

Here's the UK doing what we cannot - directly financing government expenditure:
https://www.ft.com/content/664c575b-0f54-44e5-ab78-2fd30ef213cb

But but but, we will save 50000 lives globally, we must set fire to ourselves to do that!!!

lastusername

JMNolan wrote: »

I lived through the AIDS pandemic.

You didn't get that from simply walking through a group of people though, or jumping on the bus.

JMNolan

I lived through the AIDS pandemic.

lastusername

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nope, Black death , Spanish Flu just to name two previous pandemic outbreaks.

How did you make it through those two?! I was saying above we're talking about in our time

Plumbthedepths

lastusername wrote: »

It's already an unprecedented health issue...!

Nope, Black death , Spanish Flu just to name two previous pandemic outbreaks.

shocksy

lastusername wrote: »

It is - when in our time was there a highly contagious disease (that can affect the young just as much as the elderly) floating around with no vaccine and no cure?

You're wasting your time trying to reason with him. He's joined at the hip with that other fool facehugger.

lastusername

ITman88 wrote: »

Not it’s not an unprecedented health issue.

It’s an unprecedented response

It is - when in our time was there a highly contagious disease (that can affect the young just as much as the elderly) floating around with no vaccine and no cure?

pjohnson

ITman88 wrote: »

Not it’s not an unprecedented health issue.

It’s an unprecedented response

Dissapointed you didnt blame the tabloids again or just say its all fake news/a hoax.

Skylinehead

road_high wrote: »

The lockdown Fetishists will be delighted- another business down the drain. Soon there won’t be much left to go to bar supermarkets and nothing to spend
https://www.businesspost.ie/companies/debenhams-to-put-its-irish-arm-into-liquidation-49b98491

Mod: Stop with this "lockdown Fetish" crap. People being responsible doesn't mean they enjoy it.

ITman88

lastusername wrote: »

It's already an unprecedented health issue...!

Not it’s not an unprecedented health issue.

It’s an unprecedented response

lastusername

JMNolan wrote: »

Without making any comment about the relaxation of restrictions, I'm pretty sure this pandemic is not unprecedented

In our time...

JMNolan

hawkwing wrote: »

This is an unprecedented global pandemic.

lastusername wrote: »

It's already an unprecedented health issue...!

Without making any comment about the relaxation of restrictions, I'm pretty sure this pandemic is not unprecedented

lastusername

seamus wrote: »

The data already tentatively suggests that the number of daily cases is dropping, but we're still a couple of days away from knowing if it's a proper trend or a lull.

Yup, Dr. Holohan was saying it'd be the end of this week by the time we have a clearer sign.

seamus

lastusername wrote: »

Would be nice if we could, but it's overly ambitious I reckon. It's going to be another month at least I'd say, or until we see the number of daily new infections going down...

The data already tentatively suggests that the number of daily cases is dropping, but we're still a couple of days away from knowing if it's a proper trend or a lull.

lastusername

ITman88 wrote: »

You need to stop reading tabloids and listening to the fairies, it’s not that bad.

We won’t see many deaths restrictions or not, the numbers of vulnerable simply aren’t there to see any unprecedented health issue

It's already an unprecedented health issue...!

pjohnson

ITman88 wrote: »

It can be done.

We just have to many people justifying the holiday at present.

Where there’s a will there is a way

Yes down with health and safety.

Thats your next agenda sorted IT.

lastusername

Amia Thundering Engineer wrote: »

Not a hope that it will be extended that long in my opinion. Two more weeks tops of current restrictions and then months of other lesser restrictions...

Would be nice if we could, but it's overly ambitious I reckon. It's going to be another month at least I'd say, or until we see the number of daily new infections going down...

seamus

niallo27 wrote: »

Honestly I dont see any team sports this year. Maybe football in the winter, buy I'd say no summer sports.

The GAA are probably hoping they can pick up the championships in July and run a condensed timetable through to October.

I don't realistically see them being allowed to cram 83,000 people into Croke Park before September though.

ITman88

hawkwing wrote: »

This is an unprecedented global pandemic.

You need to stop reading tabloids and listening to the fairies, it’s not that bad.

We won’t see many deaths restrictions or not, the numbers of vulnerable simply aren’t there to see any unprecedented health issue

TheCitizen

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I'll take the time to respond to you once more. Firstly I have used the phrase lock down fetishist once and my only reference to those that seem to enjoy same.
My situation is quite benign actually rural house on an acre of land 1O miles from nearest town. So getting out for a run/walk twice a day no issue. Few neighbours some distance from me. Still working and will be eventhough I'm on a week's leave next week. My work is essential.
I don't presume to tell others how they should feel or use asinine comments like 'suck it up'.
As I said dislike a comment scroll on by, a tactic I use with the majority of yours.
Now it's a discussion forum people are entitled to voice their thoughts if you have issues with that maybe a different outlet would suit better.
Feel free to reply but I will however be using my already explained tactic of scrolling.

What about asinine comments like "lockdown fetishist". I tell you what; you stop lecturing people and putting labels on them on how they are responding to this before you complain about others you claim are preaching.

"My work is essential" he says, everyone's work is ultimately essential. Get down off your high horse.

As this develops almost everyone will begin to know personally someone who has died or are suffering from this. They are trying to get on top of this and maintain control of the health services during this initial bout of the virus. They deserve our support and discipline and patience.

seamus

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Surely supervision would be an issue if this was to be implemented.

Plenty of teachers will be available for this since the primary schools will still be shut.
It'll cost more, but shouldn't be a major problem

hawkwing

This is an unprecedented global pandemic.

ITman88

arctictree wrote: »

My young lad, who is sport mad is being driven crazy due to lack of matches and training. Anyone have a rough idea when team sports will be back up again? (Football, Hurling, Soccer etc....)

Very hard to know, judging by some of the posters suggestions on here, he could be senior hurling by the time we are out of the police state

niallo27

arctictree wrote: »

My young lad, who is sport mad is being driven crazy due to lack of matches and training. Anyone have a rough idea when team sports will be back up again? (Football, Hurling, Soccer etc....)

Honestly I dont see any team sports this year. Maybe football in the winter, buy I'd say no summer sports.