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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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0gac3yjefb5sv7

lastusername wrote: »

End of May at the earliest, possibly into early June I reckon. Gradual re-opening of small businesses and shops through mid-late June and into July.

Not a hope that it will be extended that long in my opinion. Two more weeks tops of current restrictions and then months of other lesser restrictions...

ITman88

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No one is denying loads of businesses are f*cked. What do you think we should do to avoid this?

Well it’s not like there is nothing we could do.

One, off the wall, suggestion is allow them to open as soon as possible

Thelonious Monk

road_high wrote: »

Aware of that but they may have struggled on. This will finish lots of businesses and strengthen the domination of others

No one is denying loads of businesses are f*cked. What do you think we should do to avoid this?

ITman88

lastusername wrote: »

Gradual re-opening of small businesses and shops through mid-late June and into July.

Possibly, but no small business will have survived unfortunately.

ITman88

is_that_so wrote: »

Harris saying these restrictions could go on for a "period of weeks" according to George Lee. Expect an official announcement tomorrow.

Glad to see George Lee getting involved.

Might have some balance involved in further decisions.

Not just knee jerk reactions

lastusername

is_that_so wrote: »

Harris saying these restrictions could go on for a "period of weeks" according to George Lee. Expect an official announcement tomorrow.

End of May at the earliest, possibly into early June I reckon. Gradual re-opening of small businesses and shops through mid-late June and into July.

is_that_so

Harris saying these restrictions could go on for a "period of weeks" according to George Lee. Expect an official announcement tomorrow.

Sconsey

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Easier to quote my entire post and highlight what causes you an issue. Your edit is meaningless with no context.

Ok let me spell it out for you so since you are playing dumb:

You admint to using the term 'lockdown fetishists' and then then get high and mighty claimng you don't use asinine comments.

road_high

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Debenhams, both in Ireland and the UK, were in trouble long before the virus ever appeared.

Aware of that but they may have struggled on. This will finish lots of businesses and strengthen the domination of others

Plumbthedepths

Sconsey wrote: »

In the same post!

Easier to quote my entire post and highlight what causes you an issue. Your edit is meaningless with no context.

Thelonious Monk

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Debenhams, both in Ireland and the UK, were in trouble long before the virus ever appeared.

Yep they were always gonna close anyway.
Still, this lockdown fetishist will pop open some champagne now to celebrate their demise and the loss of more jobs wooooo!

ITman88

Tell me how wrote: »

Cool. Hope to see you posting in support of improved conditions and benefits for these groups when this is all over.

Likewise, you did mention them first don’t forget

Cork Boy 53

road_high wrote: »

The lockdown Fetishists will be delighted- another business down the drain. Soon there won’t be much left to go to bar supermarkets and nothing to spend
https://www.businesspost.ie/companies/debenhams-to-put-its-irish-arm-into-liquidation-49b98491

Debenhams, both in Ireland and the UK, were in trouble long before the virus ever appeared.

polesheep

Gael23 wrote: »

So your saying these restrictions are unnecessary?

No, I have never suggested that. I am saying that we may already be past the point where we could begin to ease them.

Loafing Oaf

ITman88 wrote: »

More scaremongering.

The language used “could” “may”.

The media are loving this, click bait tripe.

The 'scaremongering' is coming from the doctors themselves. Are they looking for extra clicks?
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129248-dublin-mater-icu/

The Director of Critical Care Medicine at the Mater Hospital in Dublin has said the intensive care unit there is full and some patients, who have been ventilated, have been moved to the high dependency unit for care.

Dr Colman O'Loughlin said that most of the patients in the 18 ICU beds are Covid-19 patients.

Tell me how

ITman88 wrote: »

My view is those groups need a prosperous economy to fund the necessary support’s required to provided a reasonable standard of living.

Cool. Hope to see you posting in support of improved conditions and benefits for these groups when this is all over.

ITman88

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

This comment says it all about your attitude. The old and those with illnesses are collateral damage. Is that right?

No, but as per my last comment, the old and those with illness, need a prosperous economy to provide funding to the supports need to maintain a quality of life for those groups

Gael23

polesheep wrote: »

The peak. If the nursing homes are isolated and their figures discounted, I believe the stats would show that we have already passed the peak. We are not being given an open and honest breakdown of the stats for a reason.

So your saying these restrictions are unnecessary?

Sconsey

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

...I have used the phrase lock down fetishis...I don't presume to tell others how they should feel or use asinine comments.

In the same post!

ITman88

Tell me how wrote: »

Do you have any idea what is going on in the world today?

Before the crisis, what was your view on the quality of life of elderly people in the community?
How do you feel about those in direct provision who have experienced for years similar to what many are now experiencing for a few weeks?
What about those trying to raise children in hotel rooms?
Or what about disabled people who experience restricted access and movement throughout society constantly.
Or what about the caregivers who for years have felt that they have been ignored and left unsupported to look after vulnerable family members.

My view is those groups need a prosperous economy to fund the necessary support’s required to provided a reasonable standard of living.

road_high

The lockdown Fetishists will be delighted- another business down the drain. Soon there won’t be much left to go to bar supermarkets and nothing to spend
https://www.businesspost.ie/companies/debenhams-to-put-its-irish-arm-into-liquidation-49b98491

KrustyUCC

To be blunt and honest with people, the restrictions that are in place are not going to be lifted tomorrow, we're going to have to keep at it.”

"What we're hoping to be able to do is show people what the journey looks like....if we keep at this for another couple of weeks, where does it bring us, what does success look like?".

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/simon-harris-restrictions-that-are-in-place-are-not-going-to-be-lifted-tomorrow-993132.html

I wont be holding my breath that they know what the journey will be like

It would definitely help people to know the plan

polesheep

Gael23 wrote: »

Truth as regards to what?

The peak. If the nursing homes are isolated and their figures discounted, I believe the stats would show that we have already passed the peak. We are not being given an open and honest breakdown of the stats for a reason.

Cork Boy 53

ITman88 wrote: »

Our approach is cripple the economy and slightly prolong lives.

The thing is the restrictions might have jack all effect on the numbers admitted to ICU, and it may be much more to do with sparse population and over 14m less vulnerable people.

You can be assured the restriction will be credited with the reduction in deaths etc by people overjoyed by the restrictions.

Stira stairs Shelia’s joy will be short lived when her benefits get cut however

This comment says it all about your attitude. The old and those with illnesses are collateral damage. Is that right?

ITman88

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

In the ICUs
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/dublin-hospitals-may-have-to-move-covid-19-patients-outside-capital-as-icus-fill-up-993087.html

More scaremongering.

The language used “could” “may”.

The media are loving this, click bait tripe.

Tell me how

brutes1 wrote: »

Absolutely

Major damage being done

Elderly parents getting older without seeing family and in despair

Children without school

30% of the country out of work#

People afraid to talk to each other and suspicious minds

No proper testing

Empty hospitals - where is the crisis?

Rule by diktak based on TV broadcasts. Is this for real.

Did the govt or CMO consult the over 70s before locking them in ? or the public? Democracy or authoritarian rule it sure seems like the latter

And worst is the total absence of any questioning by any politician , only one I heard was Brendan O Connor on RTE last Sat

Do you have any idea what is going on in the world today?

Before the crisis, what was your view on the quality of life of elderly people in the community?
How do you feel about those in direct provision who have experienced for years similar to what many are now experiencing for a few weeks?
What about those trying to raise children in hotel rooms?
Or what about disabled people who experience restricted access and movement throughout society constantly.
Or what about the caregivers who for years have felt that they have been ignored and left unsupported to look after vulnerable family members.

I would expect that someone with the above thoughts would have long been a champion for human rights and isn't just using this situation to shout about conspiracy theories and throw accusations at the government.

niallo27

If we are 2 weeks behind Italy we are due to reach our peak tomorrow.

salmocab

polesheep wrote: »

I wouldn't. There are far more people in the chain over there, which makes hiding the truth very difficult. Here, on the other hand, we have a record of concealing the truth that is second to none.

Well each to their own

Gael23

People won’t take much more unless we get an indication tomorrow of when life can begin to get back to normal

polesheep

salmocab wrote: »

If there’s anyone not telling the truth I would be a lot more suspicious of their government than ours.

I wouldn't. There are far more people in the chain over there, which makes hiding the truth very difficult. Here, on the other hand, we have a record of concealing the truth that is second to none.