KiKi III wrote: » You're right. It can't, and it won't. Public policy isn't decided by that Boards thread. Don't be freaking yourself out over something that's blatantly not going to happen.
KrustyUCC wrote: » The sooner restrictions are lifted the better but I fear its a long way off
ITman88 wrote: » Ah FFS. Not a plan in the world. At some point, someone somewhere in Ireland needs to suggest an economic assessment. Media loving doctors will not preform that economic assessment.
TheCitizen wrote: » Your man is a Doctor, he's going to give the view of this from his angle. Other voices will come into play as the initial crisis subsides. A bit of patience required right now until we reach the initial peak of this.
ITman88 wrote: » You have agreed with my point. I’ll not freak out, have you seen Mr Holohan’s latest approach. Those guys have no plan is the issue, so I’ve a funny feeling he’s posting somewhere on that thread to support the white flag fanatics
Plumbthedepths wrote: » If this is the plan the economy is destroyed for good.https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/impossible-to-put-time-limit-on-coronavirus-restrictions-39115323.html
jmayo wrote: » Well officially China is doing ok. And they are saving the world now selling them PPE and test kits. Never mind that the PPE is substandard and sometimes nearly half the test kits are faulty. It's the thought that counts. Just to lighten the mood and to make all those stir crazy anti-lockdowners feel better, county yourself lucky you don't live in Turkmenistan. The current leader, Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow, once a dentist and head of dept of health which carried out his predecessors bright idea to close all rural hospitals and only have them in the Capital city and major regional towns. The plan was centralisation of services. The HSE hierarchy would have loved his plans on creation of centres of excellence. Berdimuhamedow (I dare anyone to pronounce it) is a bit of an old totalitarian but he is very very popular getting 97% of the vote. He writes books, songs and does a bit of DJing. Now to be fair he reversed some of the weird changes of his predecessor, Saparmurat Saparmurat Niyazov, who makes him look like a paragon of sanity. Not alone did Niyazov close hospitals, he chopped pensions of 100,000, forced people to read and study his autobiography which led to people being examined on it in interviews for state jobs. And his biggest claim to fame was his idea to rename the days of week and months of year after family and terms in his autobiography. Now old Niyazov did have some good ideas. He banned lip syncing at concerts and who could argue with that. He banned dogs from the capital, no more dog shyte on the footpath. He banned smoking in public and in government offices, and he banned chewing tobacco. He banned news reporters and presenters from using makeup while on TV. He outlawed opera and ballet. He banned the Turkmen word for bread and named it after his mother. Nice he showed his appreciation for his mother. Corona would seem to be the least of the issues facing Turkmenistan's population.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Didn't he put a tax on beards too? If you have seen Dark Tourist on Netflix, there's an episode where he goes there, it's a crazy weird place, the capital is like some weird Las Vegas in an alternate universe.
salmocab wrote: » Take this nonsense to conspiracy theory forum. The man is far too busy to be interested in an online forum.
ITman88 wrote: » It was obviously sarcasm!
lainey_d_123 wrote: » I'd be very surprised if the current level of restrictions were eased in anything less than a month, either in the UK or Ireland. I'm not expecting to see any different until well into May, and even then it'll be limited and staggered reopenings, IMO.
ITman88 wrote: » The restrictions have changed some lives more than others. We have 850k on the unemployment benefit. Who may/may not have a job back. Hotels and tourism has 11m visitors last year. That’s not coming back this year. Airlines will collapse by May/June ending cheap travel. Sport/concerts relies on disposable income. Those who kept jobs have disposable income built up, 850k have not. Premier league clubs are under unbelievable financial strain, and they are built on fans using disposable income to attend matches/buy merchandise. We are not living with Covid, we are static, and it appears we will remain static for some time. People are have been driven to a state of hysteria by the media and have lost all confidence to stand beside a stranger.
ITman88 wrote: » Thing is they won’t consider an economic assessment until its far to late. We don’t have a track record of foresight
KiKi III wrote: » It's literally your only option.
TheCitizen wrote: » They? who are they exactly? I disagree. I don't think for one minute that they (if you mean all the powers that be in this country and in wider EU and Europe) are not considering other aspects of this. It's not in anyone's interests to run down economies.
TheCitizen wrote: » Surrender monkeys is the phrase your reaching for there ITman. Listen to Trump, he's got lots of quips and soundbites that you need.
ITman88 wrote: » Other countries are considering the complete assessment of economic vs healthcare. Italy and Poland looking at easing restrictions this week to restart economy. Our approach is wait and see. We have a unique population and it requires a unique approach. This virus affects mostly over 65s of which Italy has 15m. We have 600k.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Well it mightn't be for the better if they are lifted soon, that's the thing. Could totally overwhelm healthcare and cause lots more vulnerable to die and get sick.
TheCitizen wrote: » Our approach is to try to get to the other side of this initial peak and then assess the situation and wider implications. We need to get the timing right and it's not just about older people it's about managing the situation so that the health service doesn't become snowed under. Thankfully panic merchants like you aren't in charge pressing the panic button prematurely.
KrustyUCC wrote: » 60 days of not seeing family, friends and for those in relationships not living together
KiKi III wrote: » Do you honestly think these thousands of civil servants are just sitting on their hands going "ah sure, we'll wait and see". They're hard at work.
ITman88 wrote: » Our approach is cripple the economy and slightly prolong lives.
ITman88 wrote: » Our approach is cripple the economy and slightly prolong lives. The thing is the restrictions might have jack all effect on the numbers admitted to ICU, and it may be much more to do with sparse population and over 14m less vulnerable people. You can be assured the restriction will be credited with the reduction in deaths etc by people overjoyed by the restrictions. Stira stairs Shelia’s joy will be short lived when her benefits get cut however
Thelonious Monk wrote: » I'm currently the only family member in Ireland right now, parents and brother in different countries with no way of getting back if they wanted. Can't see friends either or partner, we don't live together. But Jasus it's a few weeks of your life, we'll manage.
TheCitizen wrote: » Seriously you need to chill out with this carry on, no one is overjoyed with restrictions. You sound totally paranoid when you go on with that stuff. "Stira stairs Sheila" :pac: You should start writing these quips down.
Theboinkmaster wrote: » You need to think about people less fortunate than ourselves who are locked down in awful circumstances. Childline and domestic abuse helpline calls have increased +25% in volume over the past few weeks. A lot of people suffering quietly.
Idbatterim wrote: » there are way less cars on the road since this extra clamp down. I dont have an issue with that, I think building should get going again. Stay strict on clamp down and needless trips, causing spread of virus. Building going again will increase spread, but at least its putting huge amounts back into employment...
