tobefrank321 wrote: » Far less ludicrous than the current system of posting new cases even though most were infected 2 weeks ago and in the German cases possibly 3-4 weeks ago. I hope the government are not deciding on restrictions based on newly confirmed cases as they are hopelessly out of date. We need to see more up to date trends. ICU admissions and deaths only tells us again who was infected two weeks ago. How to determine more up to date trends is the key to lifting or imposing restrictions. And so far we don't really have any reliable way of doing that. So literally the only one we have is how many people are today reporting symptoms of covid 19. Not a runny nose, a sneeze or a minor cough - but suspected cases as determined by a GP. If last week over a 7 day period, 5000 people rang up (presented) with strong symptoms of covid 19 and this week it was only 2000, then we definitely know we are heading in the right direction. Not perfect, but literally the only way at the moment we can determine which way we are going.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Noone is arguing - or should be arguing - lifting. Easing of restrictions.
Poorside wrote: » If the weather is going to be good for the weekend they'll need to lock it down even more.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » I think there is a high chance that you will. Anyway let us know one way or the other.
ITman88 wrote: » Easing - exactly. No one want everything lifted, social distancing is here to stay forever, but who ever can safely return to work as soon as possible needs to. We are using restrictions to prevent overwhelming the health service, that has worked. We are not using restrictions to get positive test’s or deaths to 0.
ITman88 wrote: » social distancing is here to stay forever
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » And that's not going to happen with a vaccine. There are two options: 1 - lockdown everyone and everything until said vaccine is widely available (late 2021 apparently) 2 - Ease the restrictions to the point new cases are going to occur, but on a manageable level.And the first one is not on the table.
BanditLuke wrote: » I'll be amazed if the restrictions are lifted Sunday week. I can't for the life of me see how anyone would think that or argue for it.
TheCitizen wrote: » So there is one option you mean
Cyrus wrote: » i said start to be lifted and prepare to be amazed you realise its happening in scandanavia and austria already right? im not into these doomsday fantasys being peddled maybe you are.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I genuinely believe there are people taking pleasure from the current restrictions. Plenty of evidence of it here.
thebaz wrote: » Sweden has had very few restrictions, asking citizens to behave like adults and social distance - ther figures are not of the chart -- What we have done the past few weeks has been right, to ease strain on medical service , keep it going for maybe another 2 weeks , but people then will reach breaking point - we will then need to Cocoon the elderly and immuno-suppressed, but some more essentail services will need to come back to work, who is going to pay for the 700,000 on the dole ? People are actually going hungry now in Italy , more restrictions here will lead to an East Germany/North Korea style society - I for one dont want that
Penfailed wrote: » Sorry...what?!
Cyrus wrote: » i was referring to norway and denmark more so who have followed similar approachs to us and are easing restrictions next week (schools to reopen etc)
lainey_d_123 wrote: » I think the once-a-day 'exercise' should include being able to go and sit on a blanket in the park or on a park bench, alone. The current policy is very discriminatory against those not able to visibly exercise.
Blueshoe wrote: » Some people embrace a change from the norm. Some people are just getting on with it. Some people are struggling with the current restrictions and some people enjoy telling others that the restrictions won't be going anywhere anytime soon. Such is life. People are different. If we were all the same life would be boring
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Let`s just wait and see what the consequences of that will be, in particular reopening the schools and colleges. It may well be a decision they come to regret if new cases and deaths spike there.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Actually I'm referring to to the lockdown fetists of which they are several.
Blueshoe wrote: » There are those who are only thinking of themselves and using their fragility and selfishness to push their view that the restrictions must end. There are all sorts
ITman88 wrote: » It’s here to stay, you can hardly suggest once the restrictions are lifted we won’t be social distancing
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I have been reading and commenting on this thread from the start, I have seen comments saying that restrictions need to be eased and an exit plan explained but I have not seen anyone call for the restrictions to end. Maybe you could post a link or two to back up this selfishness you are referring too?
Blueshoe wrote: » Maybe I could but more likely that I won't. The selfishness in a very small minority is there to see. I don't have to follow any instruction from your good self. Find someone else to argue with
MadYaker wrote: » Driving is a lot more fun on empty roads and I haven’t seen a single checkpoint yet! Before anyone starts abusing me for driving I still have to actually go into work the odd day. The air is definitely cleaner around town as well. Those are about the only positives I can think of
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Well they have to end at some point. Are you in favour of eternal lockdown?