thebaz wrote: » Sweden has had very few restrictions, asking citizens to behave like adults and social distance - ther figures are not of the chart -- What we have done the past few weeks has been right, to ease strain on medical service , keep it going for maybe another 2 weeks , but people then will reach breaking point - we will then need to Cocoon the elderly and immuno-suppressed, but some more essentail services will need to come back to work, who is going to pay for the 700,000 on the dole ? People are actually going hungry now in Italy , more restrictions here will lead to an East Germany/North Korea style society - I for one dont want that
Cyrus wrote: » i said start to be lifted and prepare to be amazed you realise its happening in scandanavia and austria already right? im not into these doomsday fantasys being peddled maybe you are.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I genuinely believe there are people taking pleasure from the current restrictions. Plenty of evidence of it here.
TheCitizen wrote: » So there is one option you mean
BanditLuke wrote: » I'll be amazed if the restrictions are lifted Sunday week. I can't for the life of me see how anyone would think that or argue for it.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » And that's not going to happen with a vaccine. There are two options: 1 - lockdown everyone and everything until said vaccine is widely available (late 2021 apparently) 2 - Ease the restrictions to the point new cases are going to occur, but on a manageable level.And the first one is not on the table.
ITman88 wrote: » social distancing is here to stay forever
ITman88 wrote: » Easing - exactly. No one want everything lifted, social distancing is here to stay forever, but who ever can safely return to work as soon as possible needs to. We are using restrictions to prevent overwhelming the health service, that has worked. We are not using restrictions to get positive test’s or deaths to 0.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » I think there is a high chance that you will. Anyway let us know one way or the other.
Poorside wrote: » If the weather is going to be good for the weekend they'll need to lock it down even more.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Noone is arguing - or should be arguing - lifting. Easing of restrictions.
tobefrank321 wrote: » Far less ludicrous than the current system of posting new cases even though most were infected 2 weeks ago and in the German cases possibly 3-4 weeks ago. I hope the government are not deciding on restrictions based on newly confirmed cases as they are hopelessly out of date. We need to see more up to date trends. ICU admissions and deaths only tells us again who was infected two weeks ago. How to determine more up to date trends is the key to lifting or imposing restrictions. And so far we don't really have any reliable way of doing that. So literally the only one we have is how many people are today reporting symptoms of covid 19. Not a runny nose, a sneeze or a minor cough - but suspected cases as determined by a GP. If last week over a 7 day period, 5000 people rang up (presented) with strong symptoms of covid 19 and this week it was only 2000, then we definitely know we are heading in the right direction. Not perfect, but literally the only way at the moment we can determine which way we are going.
Logan Roy wrote: » Shhh, you're ruining his fantasy.
ITman88 wrote: » The lockdown fairies are completely ignoring those facts. Wuhan, Lombardy, Madrid and Paris ain’t anything like Ireland. Even our most densely populated cities never built up, they built out. We have so much working in our favour, including population density and age profile. 34 European cities have a greater population than Dublin.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » Ireland has the advantage over cities like Wuhan of low population density as well. It's far, far easier for most people in Ireland to completely avoid contact with others than it is for people in urban China. Even getting into a lift in your own apartment block to go downstairs and accept a food delivery is far more risk than most people in Ireland currently have to tolerate.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » When I saw your discription, I was expecting at least 8-10 people in a park, not two people possibly who live toegether totally respecting social distancing rules. It's not going outside that spreads the virus, it's being in onctact with different people. This isn't the US. Also, deaths aren't really an indicator of the virus' progression.
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » sounds like more restrictions now the smurfs have powers to detain/fine ect.
Cyrus wrote: » the restrictions will start to be lifted, if not on Sunday, then the following weekend, itll be a gradual thing and we may end up taking one step forward and two back at points but rest assured thats what will happen, as others have said dozens of people die every day, by not giving us any information of how many extra deaths over the norm we are seeing people are being panicked, thats the tactic to be fair. the new powers are only in force until sunday night. the reality is that many that have died would probably have died this year one way or another, and that is in no way to detract from the sadness that will be felt by their families and the cruelty of not being able to be there with them or have a proper funeral if they wish.
Blueshoe wrote: » I'm working tomorrow. Essential services list. I will be traveling from Dublin city to west Sligo and back. How many checkpoints will I meet? I doubt il meet any at all
Witcher wrote: » Probably because you've been in your house as you should.Lads having a BBQ like it's a holiday ffs:pac:
terrydel wrote: » 1800 deaths in last 24 in the US, average deaths per day in 2017 approx 7700. I wonder if mr 16 likes still thinks our decisions were 'panicked and poor'?
Ace2007 wrote: » Are you really asking that question? It Wuhan no one left their house unless they had to/given permission - some were chained into the houses - that's why they got over it so quickly
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » This depends on the rate of new cases and measures taken to combat said wave. If the rate of cases isn't as high and there are more ICU units available, full lockdown won't be automatic.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » If and when there is another wave of the virus then they will go right back to full lockdown again as will any other area of China.
salmocab wrote: » But your then basically taking numbers based on people making phone calls that’s a ludicrous way to get numbers.
never_mind wrote: » Are we expecting further restrictions and an announcement on Friday or a continuing of current scenario for 2 weeks? Being relaxed isn't an option, obviously.
