robinph wrote: » And what about how many people are crammed into a train carriage at once, how many people are allowed into a shop at once, if the cinema is reopened how many seats do they fill, are bars back open again? There is a difference between the lifting of a lockdown and things being back to normal, or what we were doing 4 months ago.
salmocab wrote: » Surely you can’t say using confirmed cases is too unreliable and also think that using how many people rang a hotline would be better at telling us where we’re at?
tobefrank321 wrote: » In terms of real time information, it probably is yes. Those who report symptoms probably got infected within the last 5 days. Those who will be tested and got results back, were likely infected 2 weeks ago. 2 weeks ago is useless in telling us what is happening at the moment.
never_mind wrote: » Are we expecting further restrictions and an announcement on Friday or a continuing of current scenario for 2 weeks? Being relaxed isn't an option, obviously.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » Sure, but presumably this will all be staggered, as it should be. There are people on here who think we should be on strict lockdown for as long as it takes, which isn't feasible. What worries me is that a lot of the restrictions here in London are making the problem worse. The tube service has been cut, which means more people packed into each train, which is more dangerous. The parks have been closed because of groups of people gathering in them (apparently - from what I saw this was a huge minority of people) and this has forced joggers and everyone else onto narrow pavements, which is more dangerous. Shorter opening hours for pharmacies mean that you have to go at 10am, when the street are getting busy, so again, more dangerous. I feel like things would be safer if things like public transport went back to normal, so those who do need to use it (key workers) can travel more safely, and for everyone else who can work from home to be encouraged to do so, and shops opened normal hours again, so people wanting to avoid peak times could do so.
terrydel wrote: » 1800 deaths in last 24 in the US, average deaths per day in 2017 approx 7700. I wonder if mr 16 likes still thinks our decisions were 'panicked and poor'?
ThewhiteJesus wrote: » sounds like more restrictions now the smurfs have powers to detain/fine ect.
martingriff wrote: » This is the one thing that confused me with trains and buses been reduced. Surely more on would limit the amount per ride
lainey_d_123 wrote: » What did they do in Wuhan? They're pretty much fully open now, with a few exceptions, trains operating, flights leaving, restaurants back up and running. It's only been about 3 months for them from beginning to end. Why do people think our lockdown is going to be months and months?
Ace2007 wrote: » Are you really asking that question? It Wuhan no one left their house unless they had to/given permission - some were chained into the houses - that's why they got over it so quickly
salmocab wrote: » But your then basically taking numbers based on people making phone calls that’s a ludicrous way to get numbers.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » If and when there is another wave of the virus then they will go right back to full lockdown again as will any other area of China.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » This depends on the rate of new cases and measures taken to combat said wave. If the rate of cases isn't as high and there are more ICU units available, full lockdown won't be automatic.
Witcher wrote: » Probably because you've been in your house as you should.Lads having a BBQ like it's a holiday ffs:pac:
Blueshoe wrote: » I'm working tomorrow. Essential services list. I will be traveling from Dublin city to west Sligo and back. How many checkpoints will I meet? I doubt il meet any at all
Cyrus wrote: » the restrictions will start to be lifted, if not on Sunday, then the following weekend, itll be a gradual thing and we may end up taking one step forward and two back at points but rest assured thats what will happen, as others have said dozens of people die every day, by not giving us any information of how many extra deaths over the norm we are seeing people are being panicked, thats the tactic to be fair. the new powers are only in force until sunday night. the reality is that many that have died would probably have died this year one way or another, and that is in no way to detract from the sadness that will be felt by their families and the cruelty of not being able to be there with them or have a proper funeral if they wish.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » When I saw your discription, I was expecting at least 8-10 people in a park, not two people possibly who live toegether totally respecting social distancing rules. It's not going outside that spreads the virus, it's being in onctact with different people. This isn't the US. Also, deaths aren't really an indicator of the virus' progression.
BanditLuke wrote: » I'll be amazed if the restrictions are lifted Sunday week. I can't for the life of me see how anyone would think that or argue for it.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » Ireland has the advantage over cities like Wuhan of low population density as well. It's far, far easier for most people in Ireland to completely avoid contact with others than it is for people in urban China. Even getting into a lift in your own apartment block to go downstairs and accept a food delivery is far more risk than most people in Ireland currently have to tolerate.
ITman88 wrote: » The lockdown fairies are completely ignoring those facts. Wuhan, Lombardy, Madrid and Paris ain’t anything like Ireland. Even our most densely populated cities never built up, they built out. We have so much working in our favour, including population density and age profile. 34 European cities have a greater population than Dublin.
Logan Roy wrote: » Shhh, you're ruining his fantasy.
