Speakerboxx wrote: » Society will change forever after this.
ITman88 wrote: » The only demographic affected by the laws put in power last night are civilised well meaning people. The scumbags will still be scumbags. Curtain twitching Cathy will now, however, be able to report her neighbours to Gardaí for walking her dog too far down the road
brick tamland wrote: » People die every die of causes that could be stopped if required. Smoking related illness, tracfic accidents ect. We don't stop smoking or people driving their car. We try and mitigate the risk with controls like the pub smoking ban and speed limits ect.
Witcher wrote: » Do smoking and road deaths pass from one person to the next and grow exponentially? No? Oh ok, so they're not the same thing at all then, cool.
brick tamland wrote: » Restrictions will begin to ease in a few weeks as soon as there is sufficient testing and contact tracing in place. There will probably be days after the easing of restrictions where there will be more than 36 people dying. While its sad for the families, it'll just be the new normal for the next few months/years until this goes away. People die every die of causes that could be stopped if required. Smoking related illness, tracfic accidents ect. We don't stop smoking or people driving their car. We try and mitigate the risk with controls like the pub smoking ban and speed limits ect. The same will be true for this as soon as the get the facility in place, and until that is we'll have to put up with the current restrictions.
Cyrus wrote: » the restrictions will start to be lifted, if not on Sunday, then the following weekend, itll be a gradual thing and we may end up taking one step forward and two back at points but rest assured thats what will happen
IAMAMORON wrote: » Nazi alert. Anything else you want our government stopping people doing, willy nilly like?
rm212 wrote: » Important to also note that smoking and driving are both choices. If you don't smoke or drive, those risks are mitigated. You cannot, however, control if someone passes the virus to you.
Hyzepher wrote: » Anyone who thinks that restrictions can be lifted and people can return to mingling as normal BEFORE there is a zero instance of new community related infections is deluded. The backlash of introducing a second wave of this unnecessarily will deter any politician from prematurely opening restrictions. In my opinion we are at least 1 month after zero community related infections from opening up again.
easypazz wrote: » You can cocoon.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » What did they do in Wuhan? They're pretty much fully open now, with a few exceptions, trains operating, flights leaving, restaurants back up and running. It's only been about 3 months for them from beginning to end. Why do people think our lockdown is going to be months and months?
Witcher wrote: » Because people stayed in their houses in Wuhan or they risked getting a bullet to the face. Here some people are taking the complete piss out of it and going about as normal despite being asked and advised not to.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » 100% this. The regulations don't even make that much sense and are actually discriminatory against those who don't have the physical ability to 'exercise' as well as those who have no private garden or balcony. I'm currently having a flare up of my long term illness so not able to jog or cycle this week. I live in a flat with no outside space, but I'm not allowed to take a blanket down to the small square nearby and sit on the grass with a book for half an hour to get some sun on my face and some air, keeping well away from any other people. So if I want to get out of the flat at all, I'm forced to walk on crowded pavements, with joggers panting in my face and people passing by too closely. Far riskier than sitting in a quiet park for me and for others. People sitting on their own minding their own business are not the problem, they're just an easy target. The police could actually do their job and fine the people who are ripping the p1ss, but instead we all have to stay inside during this lovely weather, to the detriment of physical and mental health. Cool.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » Who is 'going about as normal'? I'm in London, not Ireland, but I have barely seen anyone 'going about as normal'.
Harry Palmr wrote: » If the guards don't have checkpoints on the M50/M8/M11/M1 it'll be a failure on the states part to stop the virus spread out of Dublin.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » That is just what the Gardaí are planning to do as will be the case on all the primary roads in the country.
marno21 wrote: » Same stuff again this morning in here that's been repeatedly explained on here. The Mater ICU may be full this morning, but it's full of patients who got infected weeks ago. Some of those patients may have got infected when the pubs were still open. There is a lag firstly between infection and development of symptoms, and secondly between development of symptoms and ICU admission. There are variations in how long this lag is, but the people who are in there unwell today did not get infected this morning or yesterday. The limited evidence to date, that is the contact tracing showing reduced numbers of contacts, along with declining new case growth are evidence that the measures are having a positive impact on the outbreak. There is ZERO benefit to additional measures until the current measures have been evaluated. The "lockdown" began at midnight on March 28th. We won't know for sure the outcome of the lockdown until circa. April 17th. However, until then, we have evidence from other countries that the measures we have employed have had positive impacts elsewhere.
tobefrank321 wrote: » A better indicator than confirmed cases in telling us where we are at might be the number of suspected cases - how many people rang GPs or hotlines in a 24 hour period with suspected symptoms of covid19. If this goes up then restrictions should remain. If it goes down consistently then there are probably less people being infected. Waiting for confirmed tests to use as a metric is just too unreliable given the lag effect. Some people might have been infected weeks ago. We should still test of course but using it as a basis to lift restrictions is probably meaningless.
frillyleaf wrote: » It’s not people sitting on their own that will be targeted. It’s the people that will be driving to different locations to where they live and people gathering in large groups. Someone sitting on their own in a quiet spot isn’t going to be an issue. We haven’t been told “ you must stay indoors or on your own property at all times”. The government don’t want people flocking to holiday hotspots or beaches that will be packed. I don’t think it’s that unreasonable. The more we stick to guidelines the more the healthcare system can prepare for managing this on a day to day basis and we can go back to normal
