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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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polesheep wrote: »

A very honest and open post. I feel that most of the posters advocating for a continued lockdown are probably in a similar predicament to you. It can't be easy. But, the fact is, we cannot continue with a lockdown for much longer. Instead we must find a way to provide the maximum protection we can to susceptible people until it either dies out or we get a vaccine. Fingers crossed we get a vaccine very soon.

There is a way. Social distancing as has been practiced over the last couple of weeks.

c montgomery

glasso wrote: »

yes, that's why they are just now bringing in new laws to enforce it :pac:

It will be a tough few days but the party Monday will be worth it

polesheep

c montgomery wrote: »

Vaccine will be years, any vaccine earlier than that would not be proven safe
I'm not an expert but have heard this from numerous experts on TV and podcasts

There are a number of potential vaccines that are based on existing vaccines that don't require the same lengthy trials. There are also a few potential vaccines being trialled that have been given permission to go straight to human testing. One of these began testing a few weeks ago. Of course, it could still take a long time, but no harm in being optimistic.

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polesheep wrote: »

Unless you were using code, there was no other way in which to interpret your post.

Don't worry about it. Some people just cannot get their head around things.

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c montgomery wrote: »

Only 5 days left of lockdown.....

yes, that's why they are just now bringing in new laws to enforce it :pac:

combat14

Liberation' as Wuhan's coronavirus lockdown ends after 76 days

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/liberation-as-wuhans-coronavirus-lockdown-ends-after-76-days

c montgomery

Only 5 days left of lockdown.....

polesheep

Tell me how wrote: »

Don't put words in my mouth. This is not a case of dismissing a minority as you are implying I said.

This is a case of using the best strategy (social distancing for all) to prevent the effect of this pandemic being much much greater than it might be.

I hope everyone is as concerned for the welfare for those who may feel on the margins of society when this is over as they do now when pleading their case as part of an argument for freeing up restrictions which every one is now experiencing.

Unless you were using code, there was no other way in which to interpret your post.

c montgomery

polesheep wrote: »

A very honest and open post. I feel that most of the posters advocating for a continued lockdown are probably in a similar predicament to you. It can't be easy. But, the fact is, we cannot continue with a lockdown for much longer. Instead we must find a way to provide the maximum protection we can to susceptible people until it either dies out or we get a vaccine. Fingers crossed we get a vaccine very soon.

Vaccine will be years, any vaccine earlier than that would not be proven safe
I'm not an expert but have heard this from numerous experts on TV and podcasts

polesheep

terrydel wrote: »

You could apply that logic to anything, let's ignore trying to control cancer in the population because the majority dont have it. Its nonsense.
The point of the lockdown is to ensure the least possible number of needless deaths as a result of an overwhelmed health service. It's that simple, and staggering how many cant or wont grasp this. The government, no doubt guided and influenced by what they saw in italy, chose this over the chaos and tragedy that no/token lockdown was guaranteed to bring. They essentially had two choices while staring down the barrel of a gun. They chose the correct one as evidenced right around the global.
Of course it was a 'poor and panicked' decision according to mr 16 likes, tho he cant say why.
The lockdown will be reduced and eventually removed when the modelling shows that the health service can look after the numbers it will face, which it clearly would not if they are lifted now or in the very near future.

It's late and perhaps you are sleepy. I was not stating an opinion. I was mimicking another posters post to show that his point could be used on both sides of the argument.

polesheep

Pretzill wrote: »

I'm going to do everything I can do, not to get it. At the moment that's the best scenario for me -.I'd possibly not survive it. So some people will be keeping up all measures until this c@nt of a disease has died off, on it's own or a vaccine is created. For others looking at China it could be 4 months...1 down.

A very honest and open post. I feel that most of the posters advocating for a continued lockdown are probably in a similar predicament to you. It can't be easy. But, the fact is, we cannot continue with a lockdown for much longer. Instead we must find a way to provide the maximum protection we can to susceptible people until it either dies out or we get a vaccine. Fingers crossed we get a vaccine very soon.

terrydel

Tell me how wrote: »

Don't put words in my mouth. This is not a case of dismissing a minority as you are implying I said.

This is a case of using the best strategy (social distancing for all) to prevent the effect of this pandemic being much much greater than it might be.

I hope everyone is as concerned for the welfare for those who may feel on the margins of society when this is over as they do now when pleading their case as part of an argument for freeing up restrictions which every one is now experiencing.

Very well said. Knowing the prevailing wind on boards.ie, they'll all return to voting for fg and their ilk, who don't give a ****e about the less fortunate 99% of the time.

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polesheep wrote: »

I'm pointing out how easy it is to dismiss the minority out of hand, if one chose to do so. As you did.

Don't put words in my mouth. This is not a case of dismissing a minority as you are implying I said.

This is a case of using the best strategy (social distancing for all) to prevent the effect of this pandemic being much much greater than it might be.

I hope everyone is as concerned for the welfare for those who may feel on the margins of society when this is over as they do now when pleading their case as part of an argument for freeing up restrictions which every one is now experiencing.

terrydel

polesheep wrote: »

There is absolutely no doubt that there are some who are dying, but that does not mean that we should ignore the situation in hand and the fact that in Ireland, the vast majority are not.

You could apply that logic to anything, let's ignore trying to control cancer in the population because the majority dont have it. Its nonsense.
The point of the lockdown is to ensure the least possible number of needless deaths as a result of an overwhelmed health service. It's that simple, and staggering how many cant or wont grasp this. The government, no doubt guided and influenced by what they saw in italy, chose this over the chaos and tragedy that no/token lockdown was guaranteed to bring. They essentially had two choices while staring down the barrel of a gun. They chose the correct one as evidenced right around the global.
Of course it was a 'poor and panicked' decision according to mr 16 likes, tho he cant say why.
The lockdown will be reduced and eventually removed when the modelling shows that the health service can look after the numbers it will face, which it clearly would not if they are lifted now or in the very near future.

Pretzill

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

A lot more than you seem to think.

Very few people are advocating for just stopping the lockdown now. The question is, when we do we stop it? It's obvious that at some point the aim IS going to be for people just to get the virus, but without the health system being totally overwhelmed. Things will reopen before a vaccine is found. This isn't a question of if, it's a question of when, and some people on here seem blissfully ignorant of this.

I'm going to do everything I can do, not to get it. At the moment that's the best scenario for me -.I'd possibly not survive it. So some people will be keeping up all measures until this c@nt of a disease has died off, on it's own or a vaccine is created. For others looking at China it could be 4 months...1 down.

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Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I think Ireland and her people have a good handle on things. You should be more concerned about how your own President has handled and is continuing to handle things at present. It would be ironic if Trump caught the virus.

Would you ever take off with this nonsense. I am Irish, am currently living in the US while all my friends and family are located back home or in other countries around the world.

They didn't ask me to leave any interest or compassion in the bin when I was walking through security at the airport.

polesheep

Tell me how wrote: »

So I take it you are suggesting we should ignore the contagion capacity of the virus.

I'm pointing out how easy it is to dismiss the minority out of hand, if one chose to do so. As you did.

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Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Sorry but badly needed. I know we need to look what to do beyond lockdown but when the restrictions were in place the amount of Dubs and Limerick ones coming for a "break" to our beaches so much so the council has barriers blocking off access with 2 weeks

There was even local "enforcement" groups stopping non local cars. Our local Gardai turned a blind eye when the middle aged Dublin waggons and Limerick knacks went screaming to the Gardai

I hear in Connemara now anyone that's recognised as not being local is being refused service in some shops. Even accents and reg plates are being used

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meF7NmfnXZ0

citysights

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

This is an indication of privilege.

You think someone living in a tiny flat in a tower block, in severe distress, with OCD or severe depression gives a flying f**k about having the internet at home? If they're feeling up to using it at all, they're probably googling about the virus and making themselves feel even worse.

If you're well enough and comfortable enough to be able to focus on watching a Netflix series or baking bread, you should realise that not everyone is in the same boat. You're looking at this from your own perspective, of having the comfort and the luxuries to just enjoy a bit of downtime.

I don't know why so many people keep insisting that those who are suffering are 'snowflakes' or spoiled, when the reality is the complete opposite. Those who are suffering are the most likely to have mental and physical health problems, be living in poverty, in inadequate cramped housing with no outside space, or with abusive partners or family.

I think that’s a good point Lainey about someone living in a tower flat in a tiny space. Friend of mine was saying we are lucky not to be in that situation but was saying it must be very difficult to be in a flat with a couple of children and not being able to properly get out.

Granted it’s an unprecedented situation and not ideal for any one. I know people with autistic children ( on the higher end of the spectrum) who go to school everyday and are now at home with their parents and I am wondering genuinely how the parents are coping.

These things should not be overlooked, on a positive note we have really good people here and surely a way can be found to move forward.

Plumbthedepths

Tell me how wrote: »

So I take it you are suggesting we should ignore the contagion capacity of the virus.

I think Ireland and her people have a good handle on things. You should be more concerned about how your own President has handled and is continuing to handle things at present. It would be ironic if Trump caught the virus.

Plumbthedepths

Pretzill wrote: »

I wasn't going for unusual and intelligence really has nothing to do with it - perhaps there's a pervasive lack of cop on being shown in this thread, it's simple - if people are so fed up with the way things are go out, go on knock yourself out - re-open businesses, inniate herd immunity - see how many will survive it then. This is a horrendous disease when it attacks lungs - our health service won't cope if thousands start becoming unwell in the community and then it won't just be covid it will be any health emergency that is high risk - So you do what you think is right for you -

I am doing what's right for me and following the expert advice. Going to work everyday like I have done for the last 23 years. Going for my usual 5 k each morning and a stroll in the evening. Saying hello to neighbours and a few beers at home on the weekend. I can do all this because my work is essential and I live in the countryside. I don't presume to tell anyone this is easy or this is hard.

lainey_d_123

Tell me how wrote: »

What percentage of people (ballpark) fall in to the category of this being a crippling scenario, or it being an inconvenience?

There is absolutely no doubt but that there are some who are really struggling, but that does not mean we should ignore the situation at hand and the fact that in Ireland, the vast majority are not. Not even close.

A lot more than you seem to think.

Pretzill wrote: »

I wasn't going for unusual and intelligence really has nothing to do with it - perhaps there's a pervasive lack of cop on being shown in this thread, it's simple - if people are so fed up with the way things are go out, go on knock yourself out - re-open businesses, inniate herd immunity - see how many will survive it then. This is a horrendous disease when it attacks lungs - our health service won't cope if thousands start becoming unwell in the community and then it won't just be covid it will be any health emergency that is high risk - So you do what you think is right for you -

Very few people are advocating for just stopping the lockdown now. The question is, when we do we stop it? It's obvious that at some point the aim IS going to be for people just to get the virus, but without the health system being totally overwhelmed. Things will reopen before a vaccine is found. This isn't a question of if, it's a question of when, and some people on here seem blissfully ignorant of this.

Tenzor07

glasso wrote: »

where will the €2,500 fines be going exactly?
the 2.1km hardened criminals better watch out.

If you're lucky enough to have a job and a paycheck, out of that i'd say..

If you're the sort that isn't afraid of the Gards then they probably won't stop you, what's the point of adding another conviction to an already long list?

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polesheep wrote: »

There is absolutely no doubt that there are some who are dying, but that does not mean that we should ignore the situation in hand and the fact that in Ireland, the vast majority are not.

So I take it you are suggesting we should ignore the contagion capacity of the virus.

Pretzill

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nah it was mentioned before, Godwin's law is no longer an unusual or intelligent response tbh.

I wasn't going for unusual and intelligence really has nothing to do with it - perhaps there's a pervasive lack of cop on being shown in this thread, it's simple - if people are so fed up with the way things are go out, go on knock yourself out - re-open businesses, inniate herd immunity - see how many will survive it then. This is a horrendous disease when it attacks lungs - our health service won't cope if thousands start becoming unwell in the community and then it won't just be covid it will be any health emergency that is high risk - So you do what you think is right for you -

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Plumbthedepths wrote: »

It's amusing unless I'm wrong you are living in America commenting to someone living in London about the situation in Ireland.

Yes. The world in 2020.

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where will the €2,500 fines be going exactly?

the 2.1km hardened criminals better watch out.

niallo27

The main problem here is that people are out of work or will be out of work soon and they are worried how they will pay their mortgages and bills. This is the major issue, its not that they want a pint or have run out of things to watch on netflix.

polesheep

Tell me how wrote: »

What percentage of people (ballpark) fall in to the category of this being a crippling scenario, or it being an inconvenience?

There is absolutely no doubt but that there are some who are really struggling, but that does not mean we should ignore the situation at hand and the fact that in Ireland, the vast majority are not. Not even close.

There is absolutely no doubt that there are some who are dying, but that does not mean that we should ignore the situation in hand and the fact that in Ireland, the vast majority are not.

Jurgen Klopp

ITman88 wrote: »

I’ve agreed with nearly all your posts so far.

However, I can assure you the upgrade of the law will not effect the actions of that minority

Knacks, probably not

You'd be surprised at how many "middle class" types are coming for a "break" to their holiday homes or caravan and I can tell you anything that keeps them away is well worth it

Galway, Clare, Kerry, Cork and Wexford in particular were buggered by these types

In my opinion it's the fact it's the Easter weekend and good weather coming is the reason they have chosen to enact this now