polesheep wrote: » Good for her. There are many who are not so free to do as she does. I have a fantastic garden but I realise that there are many who don't.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » We are all going to have worse living standards, no two ways about it at this stage. The domestic economy matters and I'm sure maybe next month or so restrictions will be relaxed. But people wont be rushing out to cafes and restaurants and gyms etc so a lot of them are going to go out of business. I wont be able to pay my mortgage soon, but I very much doubt they'll evict me given the circumstances. But what can you do.
polesheep wrote: » I think you'll find that the hyperbole was on the other side of the argument. "Who gives a rats arse about output if everyone you love dies."
Idbatterim wrote: » Gyms , cinemas etc shouldn’t reopen now in my opinion. It’s shutting down building and supply chain etc , that is total idiocy in my opinion. It’s just too much , let people adapt and innovate how they go about this situation and not a middle ground. While varadkar probably Binks he’s playing a blinder now , give it a few more weeks. When many businesses are consigned to scrap heap, we still have deaths and the vaccine is probably way out any way.
Idbatterim wrote: » Hang on. If restrictions are lifted , who is asking anyone at risk to go out and act as all is normal ? Nobody ! It makes me laugh , no cost is too high to save lives. You haven’t been presented with your future living standards large drop bill yet !
TheCitizen wrote: » I don’t know who said that cos you didn’t quote it properly did you? Most of the hyperbole on this thread is on the “won’t somebody think of the money” short sighted and short term and stupid attitude side.
pjohnson wrote: » Yeah but what about the economy. People here would love to sacrifice off a few citizens if it meant they could earn money again. Greed more important that lives.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Yeah but I would imagine construction will be one of the first things to be reopened, I mean it's mostly healthy men working on sites for starters! I'd say most of April will continue as is and then things like construction will come back online.
gmisk wrote: » Employers would likely be asking people to go back to the office etc, even people at risk work......so that would likely lead to rammed public transport, which really wouldn't be helpful. I can see the restrictions being lifted but not for another 4 weeks at the very minimum would be my guess, look at the majority of other countries.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » So you're saying some people in apartments can't leave the apartments, or what?
Idbatterim wrote: » Think of the money ? Think of the domestic violence up , mental health issues. Suicide. Fear. Some people at near breaking point , imagine being locked up with a few kids , working from home etc. as if the corona virus , is the only thing to fear!
TheCitizen wrote: » What supply chain is being shut down? The buildings were closed down along with everything else to get a grip on the community transfer of the virus and to ensure the health system didn’t go into meltdown. Once they are over the peak some restrictions will be lifted and effective treatments will become available. They are playing this well so far, the last thing needed now is to do what you appear to be doing and panic.
pjohnson wrote: » I'd have thought people would be more worried about this virus that, if left unrestricted, would risk their own or their families actual lives. I'd prefer first and foremost to keep all my family members alive. I would have thought most people would think the same but this thread clearly shows different.
normanoffside wrote: » It’s not just about money or economy. Have you ever considered people’s mental health/suicide rates/quality of life? For most people going to work helps them feel good. Just as an example, calls to childline are up 25% on normal. Dentist are not working. Non Covid operations cancelled. People on the waiting lists years and now back to square one. You have to assess deaths and misery caused by having a lockdown when assessing if it’s worth it.
polesheep wrote: » Good for her. There are many who are not so free to do as she does. I have afantastic garden but I realise that there are many who don't.
Idbatterim wrote: » I don’t think most employers of people that can work from home would ask you to go back in. I reckon there would be a decent increase in walking and cycling to work too
tobefrank321 wrote: » Of course she should be allowed leave it, but she should take precautions. Apartment blocks are a prime candidate to spread cv19. If someone coughs in the hallway other people will pick it up. If they touch the lift buttons or door handles the same. Hundreds of people use apartment blocks and it only needs one infected person to infect many others.
Idbatterim wrote: » Taking a few hundred thousand extra jobs out , was idiocy. They could have coped with it. I’m not panicking , but I see where this no vision, is leading us. They think they are taking the easy path , this path is going to have serious consequences
Naked Lepper wrote: » lol, fair play to u.
gmisk wrote: » I think dentists are working but only in cases of emergency. But I agree it's a balance that has to be made.
polesheep wrote: » Economy and money are two different things. And if you are going to be pedantic, the word is 'because' not 'cos'.
polesheep wrote: » :DNitpicker lol I meant in the sense that I have somewhere to get out into.
gmisk wrote: » I personally think you are wrong. I work in a large CS department there were still a large number of people working in office until they were literally forcibly closed. Walking and cycling is just not hugely realistic for a lot of people. The majority of people in my office have long commutes.
tobefrank321 wrote: » I'd say the government and HSE will only consider restrictions being lifted when ICU numbers plateau and go down significantly. Its ICU capacity they are most interested in. So we could be several months off restrictions being lifted if we follow their model.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I honestly don't think you care about the mental health impact. We'd also face a severe mental health if large proportions of the population were to start dropping dead as a result of not taking the measures we have. I'm technically higher risk due to a chronic illness btw, I'm 28 but sure I'm expendable. Also work for an Irish company that expects no business for months regardless of if everyone went back to work in the morning. It's a global hit, every country is taking similar measures.
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