GT89 wrote: » They are only doing because everywhere else in Europe is doing it especially the UK. Our government will always follow the herd and will never take a more innovative approach to anything like Sweden who would often take a different approach to all sorts of matters than the rest of Europe. I am convinced the "lockdown" was only going to be done as soon as the UK did it and it was as it was done a few day after the UK. You watch if the UK imposes further restrictive measures Ireland will soon follow suit regardless of the number of infections and they will take the same approach as the UK when it comes to eventually lifting the "restrictions".
road_high wrote: » Virtually nothing is open bar food shops and a few essentials. What else would you like to do? Close those down as well? Because we are pretty much at rock bottom as regards restrictions. Anything else running is pretty much ancillary to the food and medical chain like agriculture and pharma. Next stop is total lockdown and the army drop food to people’s doors from warehouses
citysights wrote: » Someone here or on another thread called them the lockdown- fetishists, they just can’t wait for it. They should be careful of what they wish for, freedoms are hard won.
lord quackinton wrote: » There is plenty on here like that My question is do these people not have jobs that may be gone if the lockdown goes on longer? Are they not worried Let me make 1 quick but important point The economic figures from America are frightening beyond anything since records began Ireland will be affected deeply and there will be many job losses and with this will come huge cuts to welfare and public sector pay and jobs 2008 saw minimum cuts to some base welfare payments and public sector employees saw extra taxes and rate of new recruits slashed but little job losses But will happen the world economy is truly scary and People are not going to accept the fallout this time I know I will sound alarmist but Ireland needs to be put on a real war footing
Idbatterim wrote: » I’mistening to an “ expert “ from hse. Saying there are less cases than they expected even a week ago. The ventilator production globally has gone through roof...
Idbatterim wrote: » theyll likely freeze things as are, for no valid reason for all of the restrictions currently in place, that will be their "plan" We get hit by the corona virus bus and they are going to throw us under the recession bus now aswell...
kippy wrote: » Calm the jets.
road_high wrote: » I think a bit of personal responsibility should kick in here then. If you have elderly dependents then don’t expose them to any unnecessary risks and if necessary lockdown with them depending on the level of care they need
lord quackinton wrote: » In 2008 our gdp contracted 8.5% Estimates predict 13.1% contraction due to Covid which is very optimistic but let’s accept 13% for now 13% contraction will be hell, but if we go to 20% which many are now predicting there will be blood The euro project would be finished immediately, just think about the fallout of that alone 2008 I was worried and nervous but these days I try and not get frightened After 2008 I had to rebuild everything, It took me 6 years to retrain and another 2 to get back to earning some money Many people did like i did Now we have to accept what is coming, I still have not yet, but I am doing my best
faceman wrote: » Ireland was on lockdown before the UK. Also Sweden’s approach isn’t working. The medical profession there is screaming for a lockdown.
niallo27 wrote: » The swedish situation is very hard to read, for every article saying the medical profession is screaming for a lockdown you could find one saying how successful it has been and their relaxed restrictions are just as successful as more severe ones.
KiKi III wrote: » The deaths are fairly easy to read. Norway has a population of 5 million and 76 deaths. Denmark has a population of 5 million and 187 deaths. Sweden has a population of 10 million and 477 deaths.
KiKi III wrote: » It's a very different situation to 2008. The economy is about to take a very deep dip but many (not all, but many) of the jobs lost over the last few weeks will be back when the restrictions ease off. We also came into it with lower unemployment rates, and stronger public finances. We've had a lot of FDI in the meantime and that doesn't look like it's going anywhere for the moment. I'm cautiously optimistic that we'll be okay.
Gael23 wrote: » If the restrictions last much longer those jobs won’t be back as small businesses go to the wall in their hundreds.
niallo27 wrote: » Why is Norway doing so much better than Denmark, I'm not sure are you trying to prove my argument or disprove it.
KiKi III wrote: » The point is that Sweden is doing far worse than either.
pjohnson wrote: » Yeah but what about the economy. People here would love to sacrifice off a few citizens if it meant they could earn money again. Greed more important that lives.
niallo27 wrote: » Maybe everyone is not in as a privileged position as yourself and many are worried about providing for their families or have businesses that will have to close and are anxious about having to let people go. Maybe people have big families and mortgages and are worried how they are going pay it when this is over but no no you think it's all ****en greed.
pjohnson wrote: » I'd have thought people would be more worried about this virus that, if left unrestricted, would risk their own or their families actual lives. I'd prefer first and foremost to keep all my family members alive. I would have thought most people would think the same but this thread clearly shows different.
School closures are likely to have a relatively small impact on the spread of Covid-19 and should be weighed against their profound economic and social consequences, particularly for the most vulnerable children, according to a UK study. The research, led by University College London (UCL), is the first to look at evidence behind many governments’ decision to shut schools and keep pupils at home. “We know from previous studies that school closures are likely to have the greatest effect if the virus has low transmissibility and attack rates are higher in children. This is the opposite of Covid-19,” said the study’s lead author, Prof Russell Viner, of UCL Great Ormond Street Institute of Child Health. “Data on the benefit of school closures in the Covid-19 outbreak is limited but what we know shows that their impact is likely to be only small compared with other infection-control measures such as case isolation and is only effective when other social isolating measures are adhered to.”
Tenzor07 wrote: » With regards to school closures:
is only effective when other social isolating measures are adhered to
jackboy wrote: » If the above figures are accurate Sweden is pretty similar to Denmark.
polesheep wrote: » It is only when Covid-19 stops killing people that we will be able to say which nation took the correct approach. I suspect that there may not be much difference in the long run.
rusty the athlete wrote: » and Finland has a population of 5.5 million and 27 deaths.
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