TheCitizen wrote: » Lockdown fetishists? The hysteria is reaching hyperbole on this thread. Might be a good idea to shut the off licences.
road_high wrote: » Well it beats closing down every thing indefinitely and putting everyone on the dole which we can’t afford to do for very long. Which would appear to be the Lockdown fetishists only approach. I’d like to see a gradual return back to starting where we were over two weeks ago which was very restricted in itself. So much has closed now that was mainly pointless and should start back up as appropriate. I despair with suggestions of even further measures as you’re down to martial law levels of existence by then
Plumbthedepths wrote: » There is no comparison between the financial crash and the present experience, to suggest there is is rank stupidity.
scamalert wrote: » thats the reason there wont be any more measure put in, what was the number that are on the dole now close to 800k, any further restrictions, would raise that over 2-3mill overnight, not accounting for long term implications this would create drain hole that 2008 would look like walk in a park comparison, to get out off.
Idbatterim wrote: » thanks, you have put it more eloquently than I did! Imagine a country where these was common sense and people took responsilibty! As far away as from what this country has become, as is imaginable! Have their been any court claims against Mr corona virus yet I wonder? Maria Bailey might put in a claim, as its the latest thing to put her out of work...
road_high wrote: » I think a bit of personal responsibility should kick in here then. If you have elderly dependents then don’t expose them to any unnecessary risks and if necessary lockdown with them depending on the level of care they need
Loafing Oaf wrote: » A huge proportion of elderly, particularly elderly with chronic but not currently life-threatening health issues, live with children/grandchildren. Do you think it's feasible for them to 'cocoon' while the rest of the household goes about their business and likely contracts the virus?
Dodge wrote: » So conversely you’re saying that you don’t really care what happens as long as your pocket isn’t hit How is that not the exact same as the ‘I’m alright jack category’. Still just selfishness...
Idbatterim wrote: » yeah thats peoples choice though, people can deliver food and essentials to them.... Like nobody is asking them to leave their homes, if they dont want too....
Danzy wrote: » Why do you think your medical opinion was ignored?
Loafing Oaf wrote: » They can try but it won't work and they will likely die in similar numbers to if the virus was just allowed to let rip...
Idbatterim wrote: » I totally agree, places if things return to semi normal, could be salvaged, many businesses. This is going to send things into a bloody bad downward spiral and wait till you hear all of the crying later on, when the ramifications of this, come home to roost! There is a middle ground between our current set ups and swedens IMO. and that was the one, before the newer restrictions were announced, that was the middle ground IMO...
Idbatterim wrote: » the known vulnerable can cocoon.
road_high wrote: » I think a lot of construction could have carried on- a lot of it is carried in relative isolation anyhow in non confined spaces. Same for many other workplaces. With sensible precautions. But alas no. The Shinnerz and co had to whip up a massive frenzy and it all had to be shuttered throwing tens of thousands on welfare. It’s going to be a slow process to get it all back going again. Lots of places won’t reopen miw anyhow as funds etc are pulled and people get the jitters
Idbatterim wrote: » the buildings and buildings suppliers restrictions, should be lifted immediately. another several hundred thousand on welfare, laughable. The lock it all up merchants, when likely cuts have to be made to welfare later on in the year, will be the first screaming! There needs to be a middle ground! for those of you who havent read what approach they are taking in Sweden, it is interesting reading...https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120805778/coronavirus-to-swedes-its-the-rest-of-the-world-engaging-in-a-reckless-experiment
Idbatterim wrote: » the thing about the lock down merchants is, they likely fall into the " I am alright jack category" ... If you are suddenly unemployed or pay cut, you accept this in the short term, to put measures in place, but on a very short term basis. Because outside of that, the damage being done, is worse than what it is stopping. Listen, if people want to lock themselves inside, they can knock themselves out. Nobody stopping them...
KrustyUCC wrote: » The issue with slowly extending it time after time isn't good either We've had more and more stringent measures almost every week 2 weeks up to Easter, prob at least 2 more minimum That's a month not to mind other restrictions before thus set A long tíme for people. Take for instance the travel ban. Very tough on couples in long distance relationships People want to get back to normality asap Government relying on goodwill mainly
acequion wrote: » Doing lockdowns on a short term basis and extending where necessary is a sensible strategy on the part of Governments. You just cannot announce to an entire population that we're basically all going to be under house arrest for months. People just couldn't hack that and "the one day at a time sweet jesus" really is basic human psychology. Personally,I can't stand the doom merchants and lock down fetishists who will scream at anyone n everyone that we're all fcuked for the foreseeable and I give them a wide berth for the sake of my own sanity. This really is unbelievably hard on all of us and we have to hope that the end or at least the beginning of the end will soon be in sight.
