Jenbach110 wrote: » Would you not think our death and ICU figures are managable continuing as we are?? Be very very careful what you wish for
titan18 wrote: » There are people not obeying the current ones so no we shouldn't relax them. Make them more stringent if anything
Tenzor07 wrote: » I never thought i'd see the day when people were welcoming being all but locked in their homes, in China the authorities weld apartment doors so people can't get out, is that what people want?
jimbobaloobob wrote: » I assume your asking about South Korea? The professor interviewed said some facilities were opening small amounts of time like his sons crèche was open odd days for a couple of hours. Easing resteictings at the end of the month as you mentioned should be results based and not just because that was the initial date outlined.
citysights wrote: » Someone here or on another thread called them the lockdown- fetishists, they just can’t wait for it. They should be careful of what they wish for, freedoms are hard won.
Jenbach110 wrote: » Short of getting ton foil hat responses I agree with your sentiment. That people wish to surrender freedom this easily is weird. Are we not doing ok? Everywhere is fukn shut!
road_high wrote: » you could see them swarm online demanding the next ones. Pretty much the types that rock up weekly to the post office with a social services card and collect your taxes. No comprehension of the scale of the consequences of all this. And couldn’t care less. Revelling in the final validation of sitting at home watching Netflix or sky finally and being liberated to feel smug about it. Berating the rest of us with actual lives that see that as a huge burden and sacrifice
road_high wrote: » That’s what’s they are. As soon the various sets of restrictions were announced you could see them swarm online demanding the next ones. Pretty much the types that rock up weekly to the post office with a social services card and collect your taxes.
Tenzor07 wrote: » That's unfair and biased.. I see plenty of people on Facebook, some I know, calling for further or longer restrictions, and a number of these people live in large houses, with gardens the size of a small city park, or have decided to "Self-Isolate" at the holiday home on the scenic West Coast of Ireland, and who would also most likely have the sort of healthy bank balances you'd associate with people who live in large homes or have 2nd homes..
Tenzor07 wrote: » in China the authorities weld apartment doors so people can't get out,
acequion wrote: » Doing lockdowns on a short term basis and extending where necessary is a sensible strategy on the part of Governments. You just cannot announce to an entire population that we're basically all going to be under house arrest for months. People just couldn't hack that and "the one day at a time sweet jesus" really is basic human psychology. Personally,I can't stand the doom merchants and lock down fetishists who will scream at anyone n everyone that we're all fcuked for the foreseeable and I give them a wide berth for the sake of my own sanity. This really is unbelievably hard on all of us and we have to hope that the end or at least the beginning of the end will soon be in sight.
KrustyUCC wrote: » The issue with slowly extending it time after time isn't good either We've had more and more stringent measures almost every week 2 weeks up to Easter, prob at least 2 more minimum That's a month not to mind other restrictions before thus set A long tíme for people. Take for instance the travel ban. Very tough on couples in long distance relationships People want to get back to normality asap Government relying on goodwill mainly
Idbatterim wrote: » the thing about the lock down merchants is, they likely fall into the " I am alright jack category" ... If you are suddenly unemployed or pay cut, you accept this in the short term, to put measures in place, but on a very short term basis. Because outside of that, the damage being done, is worse than what it is stopping. Listen, if people want to lock themselves inside, they can knock themselves out. Nobody stopping them...
Dodge wrote: » So conversely you’re saying that you don’t really care what happens as long as your pocket isn’t hit How is that not the exact same as the ‘I’m alright jack category’. Still just selfishness...
Idbatterim wrote: » the buildings and buildings suppliers restrictions, should be lifted immediately. another several hundred thousand on welfare, laughable. The lock it all up merchants, when likely cuts have to be made to welfare later on in the year, will be the first screaming! There needs to be a middle ground! for those of you who havent read what approach they are taking in Sweden, it is interesting reading...https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/120805778/coronavirus-to-swedes-its-the-rest-of-the-world-engaging-in-a-reckless-experiment
road_high wrote: » I think a lot of construction could have carried on- a lot of it is carried in relative isolation anyhow in non confined spaces. Same for many other workplaces. With sensible precautions. But alas no. The Shinnerz and co had to whip up a massive frenzy and it all had to be shuttered throwing tens of thousands on welfare. It’s going to be a slow process to get it all back going again. Lots of places won’t reopen miw anyhow as funds etc are pulled and people get the jitters
Idbatterim wrote: » the known vulnerable can cocoon.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » They can try but it won't work and they will likely die in similar numbers to if the virus was just allowed to let rip...
Idbatterim wrote: » I totally agree, places if things return to semi normal, could be salvaged, many businesses. This is going to send things into a bloody bad downward spiral and wait till you hear all of the crying later on, when the ramifications of this, come home to roost! There is a middle ground between our current set ups and swedens IMO. and that was the one, before the newer restrictions were announced, that was the middle ground IMO...
Idbatterim wrote: » yeah thats peoples choice though, people can deliver food and essentials to them.... Like nobody is asking them to leave their homes, if they dont want too....