Plumbthedepths wrote: » Whether you agree or not there is a limit on how long restrictions like we have in place can continue before you are met with a backlash. By both the populace and the need to start the economy. An indefinite lockdown is impossible and no western government would attempt it.
lord quackinton wrote: » Let’s be realistic here Unless deaths are substantial at the end of April it’s time to open all businesses including pubs cafes hotels Keep a ban on large crowds until end of July then open that up This virus may not be seasonal and a vaccine could take 2 years , should we lock down indefinitely If we stay in lockdown we will destroy our economy and 2008 will seem like a Garden tea party in comparison
lainey_d_123 wrote: » They have comparatively few cases, though, and they had a head start of at least a month on us. If a lockdown is the answer to everything, why have they had so few cases in spite of taking fairly conservative measures? Early on they closed tourist sites and schools, and this seems to have hugely slowed the spread compared to the way we did it - do nothing for a few weeks and then close down everything.
KiKi III wrote: » Japan’s numbers are questionable as there is strong suspicion they fudged their numbers to keep the Olympics. Denmark, who went into a shutdown early - at a point many on this thread would have been screaming “overreaction” are now looking at lifting their restrictions after Easter.
Idbatterim wrote: » people going spare at home at this stage, re-open garden centres and building suppliers and just be sensible. The rest can follow, but closing them and putting hundreds of thousands ouf of employment, is idiocy!
TheCitizen wrote: » At the minute technically it is an indefinite lockdown. I don’t know what you mean by a backlash. Those in power are not locking down society and shutting down business by choice or lightly. This “backlash” you speak of, what form will it take? There was no backlash or not much of a one bar a few demonstrations etc. when they decided to nationalise the gambling debts of the bankers and wider financial industry in 2008. That banking scandal added €120 billion to our national debt. This crisis will add around €30 billion when it has worked its way through according to some projections. Also the banks are being used and being encouraged to help bail out regular people and industry this time. If there wasn’t mass public unrest in 2008 I don’t think we’ll see it now with this, not in Ireland anyway.
Logan Roy wrote: » You've made your point over and over again. Thank you.
KiKi III wrote: » a) That’s literally the first time I’ve made that point b) If I should choose to make the same point more than once, that’s my prerogative. Do you have anything of substance to contribute?
road_high wrote: » I agree. I was in DIY stores two or three weeks ago and it was absolutely fine. Certainly more spread out than the supermarkets are. Can’t see why the likes of McDonald’s etc can’t be open and just do take aways or drive thrus. It’s all very well just say “lock down” (usually coming from hysterical people that don’t work I can see and think money just comes from the post office and welfare office). I’d like to see an easing but with very sensible and strict distancing in place. Far more useful use of the Gardai time than asking people where they’re going for a drive. Would also ease the burden on social welfare
TheCitizen wrote: » The hysteria on this thread is from those who can’t hold their nerve and who fail to recognise that the restrictions put in place are there for important scientifically and medically backed reasons and crucially appear to be working. The Time is now more than ever to hold our nerve and have the courage to see this through.
coastwatch wrote: » Going by Tony Holohan comments today and Simon Harris comments last week, the timing of the lifting of restrictions will be based on seeing a consistent decline in new cases, but also having a widespread testing and contact tracing network in place. I think the delay in getting the testing network in place will be the bigger problem. Tony Holohan mentioned it would be there in the next couple of weeks.
Tenzor07 wrote: » Yes, every indication is an extension of the current lockdown, thousands of people staying at home, furloughed or made redundant. Without massively increased testing and tracing, as well as quarantine/isolation of infected people then, the 714,000 people receiving state payments can only increase to 1,000,000 by this time next month on current trends, which would mean the state will be borrowing off the EU to meet the payments for that, and to pay the Gardai, Army and Health service.
timmy_mallet wrote: » And with the EU doing the same for the rest of the states, I hope they;ve deep pockets.
jimbobaloobob wrote: » I think the last few days have given a false sense that control is being has with new cases in the 390-450 range but testing has declined to coincide with this. Now that testing is expected to reach 4500+ we will probably see a spike in figures in a few days time. Listening to Ivan Yates earlier he interviewed a lecturer in South Korea who have had 6 weeks lockdown with stringent testing and are yet to lift all restrictions. I hope the power holders don't come under pressures here from big business to open up until it is in the best interest of the nation and people again
Canyon86 wrote: » I would like to see ireland adopt similar measures to Denmark and Austria depending on the cases declining
jimbobaloobob wrote: » Listening to Ivan Yates earlier he interviewed a lecturer in South Korea who have had 6 weeks lockdown with stringent testing and are yet to lift all restrictions. I hope the power holders don't come under pressures here from big business to open up until it is in the best interest of the nation and people again
Logan Roy wrote: » What restrictions have they lifted so far? I think most people are on board with the idea that these current restrictions last until the end of the month but would like to see them eased gradually after that.
titan18 wrote: » There are people not obeying the current ones so no we shouldn't relax them. Make them more stringent if anything
