TheCitizen wrote: » Oh of course the trick is to ask them nicely like Mr Wolf in Pulp Fiction; “pretty please with sugar on top, clean the fúckin car”.
TheCitizen wrote: » No pleasing some people
TheCitizen wrote: » I’m not the one snowflaking pal
Tenzor07 wrote: » Large shopping centers also support 10's of thousands of jobs around Ireland and the UK, so while it's fine and dandy to say "uh keep them closed", that money spent on coffee and lunch pays someones mortgage and bills. Keeping them completely shut indefinitely is too restrictive, a step-down to the level of lock down we had in Ireland previous to the 27th of March is more sensible.
Jim Gazebo wrote: » No pleasing you either it seems
Idbatterim wrote: » shutting down builders, trades and the hundreds of thousands of related jobs onto the dole! Its so typical of this country, it is over the top. The other closures are all fair enough. This bit is idiocy though in my opinion. To shut everything down. Its not like the cure is a week or two away. This nanny state, let people on this front, make their own choices. The private sector has this mad ability to problem solve and innovate , the public sector and government, wouldnt understand. I think if this goes on long, when the analysis begins, depending on where all this ends up, but if its somewhere particularly bad, I hope these fools dont make a bad situation, even worse! The conservative attitude here, helps in the initial stages, but I think they have created worse headaches now, than what it is solving. Its all ok saying "take no chances" they or sorry , WE! will be dealing with the personal and state finances fall out from this !
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Interestingly many experts on behaviour among a population would disagree completely with you.
TheCitizen wrote: » These measures are for the good of society, goodwill does not have to be prised out of people, it’s for their good that it’s being done. They need to comply with whatever measures are deemed necessary
bladespin wrote: » We don't seem to have peaked, at least as far as what was being expected so looks like the measures have (and will continue to work), IMO the 'tight' lockdown will be around for another couple of weeks and then they will relax restriction gradually, I don't think it's reasonable to expect the levels of acceptance to continue indefinitely but relaxing some of the more stringent measures might garner another few weeks good will, hopefully that will be enough.
WORK IS UNDERWAY on how to ease stay-at-home restrictions and how to restart sections of the economy, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said today.
Tenzor07 wrote: » I don't hear of any similar plans being announced here so I can only guess that the Lockdown in Ireland will continue in full for another period of time...https://www.ft.com/content/d7025074-496e-4609-84c3-22c000cc41d6
Tenzor07 wrote: » I don't hear of any similar plans being announced here so I can only guess that the Lockdown in Ireland will continue in full for another period of time...
Austria has set out plans to become the first country in Europe to ease its lockdown against the coronavirus pandemic, with shops due to reopen as early as next week.
GT89 wrote: » Fine if your just shopping for yourself but if your shopping for a family you'll be buying a fair bit more. No one is going to shop for a family of five in a Spar or a Tesco Express. Also in Dunnes people will do a big shop in order to use their vouchers. They could manage it in a way where there's a separate queue for peopleshopping with or without trollies.
scamalert wrote: » since less income, jobs only in select industries, many places will have to go back to minimum wage, and hike the prices up to stay afloat, and people will think twice before parting with cash, it will be snowball effect that hasn't even began yet, and also dealing with never ending virus existence that will double the burden on all, which is easily year at least at this point, as added bonus stress.
scamalert wrote: » someone i know would call you complete idiot - no pun intended, you need to work in retail to know how it works, small shops were the first ones to hike up prices on everything next day since isolation rules were out. large retail chains did the same price increase overnight, not massive as they got good sales but enough to drain wallet. then you forget hospitality services that will see people not having jobs thats 5-15 people for every small to medium place that wont recover any time soon, and if you believe there's no tax increase in Ireland coming end of year to pay for massive loans and spending never mind sectors that weren't affected much will use it as excuse to ramp up prices for services - virus wont go anywhere any time soon, but as months go for people this will become secondary issue. since less income, jobs only in select industries, many places will have to go back to minimum wage, and hike the prices up to stay afloat, and people will think twice before parting with cash, it will be snowball effect that hasn't even began yet, and also dealing with never ending virus existence that will double the burden on all, which is easily year at least at this point, as added bonus stress.
robinph wrote: » Large shops benefit the owners of the shops with efficiency in less staff required overall and a higher turnover of merchandise and greater purchasing power with their suppliers. But more people would be employed if there were more smaller local shops nearer to where people lived, although purchase costs would probably increase as a result. Closing a big shop and replacing it with 10 small ones doesn't mean people lose jobs.
robinph wrote: » If lockdowns are relaxed and people are let back to shops normally again relatively soon (next couple of months) then I doubt much will change in peoples shopping habits. However, if we are allowed out but have to do one in one out and keep 2+ meters apart from each other in supermarkets and big shopping centres until this time next year then I can't see those types of massive supermarkets and shopping centres surviving. They depend on a lot of people in and out and spending large amounts of time doing so and then spending larger amounts of money. If you have to queue up for 2+ hours at the major shopping centre before you are allowed in, and then rather than the thousands that they would normally have there at a time are only a couple of hundred in there at a time people will just not bother. They will go to the small shop where they just have to queue for 10 minutes and can get in and buy what they need much more quickly. Last month people might go to whatever big Tesco and fetch their sandwich for lunch, or a couple of items for dinner and then use the self checkout and be in and out in minutes. You are not going to queue up for an hour to do that though, that is only worth doing if you are about to spend hundreds. You'll go to the small shop with two people waiting outside, queue there for a couple of minutes, get your stuff and get on with your day.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » Keep the large shopping centres closed Shopping centres encourage shopping as a hobby and hanging around them spending more and more money on coffee and lunch or whatever. The priority after lockdown should be on essential shops and services.
topper75 wrote: » To be fair, our position on the world table approximates Sweden's in terms of deaths per million. We are only two places below them. I don't think our shutdown achieved much in relative terms. Not yet anyway one week into April.
rm212 wrote: » Also just as a total aside, I'm Type 1 diabetic and it is bloody ridiculous that I have to go to GP every 6 months for a prescription for my usuals; insulin, needles, test strips. The insulin dosage is totally down to myself obviously, it adjusts per meal, I use it to correct when I'm high etc, my GP has absolutely no clue about my dosage regimen as it changes every day. Needles I use roughly the same amount every month etc. Why do I need to get a prescription for these at all, they're marked on my LTI? Pharmacists should have been able to dispense these without a GP prescription for a long time, like in other countries. For long term illnesses like mine, there should be no need for a doctor to say "oh yeah, he's still a type 1 diabetic, give him the exact same meds, he knows how to use them!" every 6 months. Edit: Sorry for the rant but these measures coming in now makes it frustrating when I've been asking why we never had them for a long time (and I bet they'll be reversed again).
normanoffside wrote: » Finland has a lot less than 100 deaths- it has 28 unless I am missing something?
