Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

He was a doctor before becoming a politician Francie. We need doctors.

The opposition should form a government and free him up so he can go back to medicine full time.

So he is not doing his job as a politician (because as recently as this morning a Nurses rep was on the national broadcaster highlighting serious hindrances to front line staff doing their jobs) the job he is paid to do, and he can moonlight on another answering phones?

Eoins wife just got made a senator. That house is not short of cash.

smurgen wrote: »

Fantastic gesture from Eoin, would be great to see other T.D's do the same ;

https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1247082255920566272?s=19

I thought all SF folk were on the industrial wage?

He was a doctor before becoming a politician Francie. We need doctors.

The opposition should form a government and free him up so he can go back to medicine full time.

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

I'm sure you agree that we've all had enough of Leo and his incapable government Francie.

I'm waiting for the other parties to replace him and fix these issues themselves. (And waiting and waiting:pac:)

Newsflash: They won't.

Is this somehow an answer to the point? That it would fit the Taoiseach better to sort out the ongoing issues hampering frontline staff from doing their work.

That is his actual job btw.

Ballso wrote: »

pUbLiCiTy sTuNt

Desperate to remain relevant.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well the MoH seems to be incapable of doing it, otherwise a Nurses rep wouldn't have to take to the national airwaves to pressure for it to happen.

I'm sure you agree that we've all had enough of Leo and his incapable government Francie.

I'm waiting for the other parties to replace him and fix these issues themselves. (And waiting and waiting:pac:)

Newsflash: They won't.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Pedantry now in a desperate effort to defend.

I'll leave you to wallow in your embarrassing faux pas in reminding us all how bad this Spin addiction stuff got a short while ago.

Even with all the money spent FG couldn't help but mess it up. It continues.

Ah yes, we've had deflect, then distract so I suppose it is time for ignore.

I'm guessing you'll be embarassed/scundered/cringing etc for me.

Talk about formulaic

:D:D

Ballso

smurgen wrote: »

Fantastic gesture from Eoin, would be great to see other T.D's do the same ;

https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1247082255920566272?s=19

pUbLiCiTy sTuNt

aido79 wrote: »

Would that task not be better suited to the minister for health?

Well the MoH seems to be incapable of doing it, otherwise a Nurses rep wouldn't have to take to the national airwaves to pressure for it to happen.

My granny would say, if you were doing pointless stuff...'would it not fit you better to do.....'

This is a serious question for Leo and the government at this time...'Would it not fit you better to sort out the issues that are making it difficult for frontline staff to actually work full and productive shifts'?

smurgen

Fantastic gesture from Eoin, would be great to see other T.D's do the same ;

https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1247082255920566272?s=19

aido79

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Should it though?

A Nurses Rep is on the national Broadcaster calling on the government to bring in changes to help them actually do their jobs during this.

Would it not fit the Taoseach better to roll up his sleeves and get that done? Make working at max capacity more efficient for ALL nurses across the country or do a stint on the phones?

Priorities Leo.

Would that task not be better suited to the minister for health?

Rows Grower

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A few others who 'know'.

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/gene-kerrigan-wanted-a-taoiseach-grown-ups-can-trust-38079996.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/varadkar-s-spin-strategy-undermines-his-leadership-1.3421174?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fvaradkar-s-spin-strategy-undermines-his-leadership-1.3421174

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/leo-varadkar-general-election-finegael-21331584

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/no-matter-how-you-spin-it-leo-made-a-huge-blunder-37550451.html

Even THE SUN was writing about it ffs!

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2017368/leo-varadkars-addiction-to-spin-and-his-strategic-communications-unit-is-causing-more-harm-than-its-worth/

Sooner or later the worshipers will realise the emperor has no clothes and it's going to be a sad day for them.

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Really? Re-wrting history now are we - you didn't post that Varadkar is "known as" a spin and PR addict.....you posted

You said he was an addict, not that people had an opinion that he was an addict.

Of course the irony that spin is now being used to get out of what you said/posted is not lost :D:D

Pedantry now in a desperate effort to defend.

I'll leave you to wallow in your embarrassing faux pas in reminding us all how bad this Spin addiction stuff got a short while ago.

Even with all the money spent FG couldn't help but mess it up. It continues.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You asked for evidence of the fact that Leo 'IS KNOWN' as a Spin and PR addict. You got it.

Right across the spectrum of the media, people have written about his penchant for it..as distinct from any previous Taoiseach.

Of course you will now ignore it and deflect to Gurry in the RA and other stuff. No surprise there.

Really? Re-wrting history now are we - you didn't post that Varadkar is "known as" a spin and PR addict.....you posted

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Eh.....Leo is a known PR addict....

[snipped]

You said he was an addict, not that people had an opinion that he was an addict.

Of course the irony that spin is now being used to get out of what you said/posted is not lost

:D:D

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Eh, aren't they just comment and opinion pieces? Not exactly evidence of anything except that some people have an opinion.

Interesting thoough that as regards Doherty, you are dismissive of the Sun and the Mirror but if it's somehow critical of Varadkar then it's like Moses has brough them down from Mount Sinai :D:D

Likewise, I'm guessing you think John Drennan in the Sun is proof, but equally when he wrote this (also in the Sun).....

.....talk about an ala carte approach to picking your supporting authorities :D:D

You asked for evidence of the fact that Leo 'IS KNOWN' as a Spin and PR addict. You got it.

Right across the spectrum of the media, people have written about his penchant for it..as distinct from any previous Taoiseach.

Of course you will now ignore it and deflect to Gurry in the RA and other stuff. No surprise there.

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Does it matter, both should be commended

Should it though?

A Nurses Rep is on the national Broadcaster calling on the government to bring in changes to help them actually do their jobs during this.

Would it not fit the Taoseach better to roll up his sleeves and get that done? Make working at max capacity more efficient for ALL nurses across the country or do a stint on the phones?

Priorities Leo.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A few others who 'know'.

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/gene-kerrigan-wanted-a-taoiseach-grown-ups-can-trust-38079996.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/varadkar-s-spin-strategy-undermines-his-leadership-1.3421174?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fvaradkar-s-spin-strategy-undermines-his-leadership-1.3421174

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/leo-varadkar-general-election-finegael-21331584

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/no-matter-how-you-spin-it-leo-made-a-huge-blunder-37550451.html

Even THE SUN was writing about it ffs!

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2017368/leo-varadkars-addiction-to-spin-and-his-strategic-communications-unit-is-causing-more-harm-than-its-worth/

Eh, aren't they just comment and opinion pieces? Not exactly evidence of anything except that some people have an opinion.

Interesting thoough that as regards Doherty, you are dismissive of the Sun and the Mirror but if it's somehow critical of Varadkar then it's like Moses has brough them down from Mount Sinai

:D:D

Likewise, I'm guessing you think John Drennan in the Sun is proof, but equally when he wrote this (also in the Sun).....

.....they [SF] are absent without leave from Westminster, absent without leave from the Assembly and simply absent without leave wherever a hard decision must be taken.

Sinn Fein, of course, claim that there are specific factors behind each case of serial absenteeism. But it is equally true to say that never in the history of democracy has a party won so many seats to so little purpose.

They talk the talk very loudly about change, but, when it comes to taking on responsibility, this party is a shiver bereft of a spine.

.....talk about an ala carte approach to picking your supporting authorities

:D:D

blanch152

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Ok, it didn't make the Irish Times but it still got coverage in the national press....

Still unclear how Varadkar re-registering is a PR stunt, but Doherty taking to FB to express his deserved admiration for his spouse isn't?

It is the difference between being a good Republican and not being a good Republican. That is known.

tikkahunter

Runaways wrote: »

Yeah my local one is Gary Gannon and he’s genuinely good feet on the ground in the area and always can be contacted and responds promptly. I hope they grow but right now I don’t get it.

Gave them one and two as well , they where the only ones who actually had the answers for me when I talked to them at the door and seemed interested in the few issues I had concerns about but looks like that was a waste now. Didn’t realise my constituency went up as far as stoney batter .

https://www.thesun.ie/news/2017368/leo-varadkars-addiction-to-spin-and-his-strategic-communications-unit-is-causing-more-harm-than-its-worth/

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

And as for your statement "Leo is a known PR addict" - is he?

A few others who 'know'.

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/gene-kerrigan-wanted-a-taoiseach-grown-ups-can-trust-38079996.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/varadkar-s-spin-strategy-undermines-his-leadership-1.3421174?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fvaradkar-s-spin-strategy-undermines-his-leadership-1.3421174

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/leo-varadkar-general-election-finegael-21331584

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/no-matter-how-you-spin-it-leo-made-a-huge-blunder-37550451.html

Even THE SUN was writing about it ffs!

ThunbergsAreGo

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Not answering the question though, is it?

Is Doherty engaging in a bit of PR-stuntery himself?

And as for your statement "Leo is a known PR addict" - is he? As you would hold others to a certain standard, perhaps you'll not be duplicitous now and be good enough to post a source for that statement?

Or is the evidence for his addiction filed with the evidence for Adams' non-membership of the IRA?

Does it matter, both should be commended

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Do you guys think that everything that happened before the Covid crisis has been wiped from memory or the record? Even the 'newspaper of record' was in on the joke...the joke that highlighted how vain the man was/is.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-s-department-of-spin-will-cost-5-million-in-2018-1.3251242?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Ftaoiseach-s-department-of-spin-will-cost-5-million-in-2018-1.3251242

We've had one poster refer to him in very derogatory and personal terms and now more dog-wihstling about addiction.

All without any evidence?

Also wasn't the SCU disbanded?

Strategic Communications Unit to be closed down by July

Anyway, bash away with the deflection.....I'm guessing the other concepts of "ignore" and "distract" will be along directly.

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Not answering the question though, is it?

Is Doherty engaging in a bit of PR-stuntery himself?

And as for your statement "Leo is a known PR addict" - is he? As you would hold others to a certain standard, perhaps you'll not be duplicitous now and be good enough to post a source for that statement?

Or is the evidence for his addiction filed with the evidence for Adams' non-membership of the IRA?

Do you guys think that everything that happened before the Covid crisis has been wiped from memory or the record? Even the 'newspaper of record' was in on the joke...the joke that highlighted how vain the man was/is.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/taoiseach-s-department-of-spin-will-cost-5-million-in-2018-1.3251242?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Ftaoiseach-s-department-of-spin-will-cost-5-million-in-2018-1.3251242

Rows Grower

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Eh.....Leo is a known PR addict...has been pilloried many times before for frivolous and vanity led stunts? Has had to be stopped from wasting millions on it?

The other guy posted on FB and it was picked up by a couple of newspapers that his wife was going back into a 'full time' role.

Ridiculous that anyone could think the two matters are comparable.

Leo is addicted to seeing himself in the papers.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Eh.....Leo is a known PR addict...has been pilloried many times before for frivolous and vanity led stunts? Has had to be stopped from wasting millions on it?

The other guy posted on FB and it was picked up by a couple of newspapers that his wife was going back into a 'full time' role.

Not answering the question though, is it?

Is Doherty engaging in a bit of PR-stuntery himself?

And as for your statement "Leo is a known PR addict" - is he? As you would hold others to a certain standard, perhaps you'll not be duplicitous now and be good enough to post a source for that statement?

Or is the evidence for his addiction filed with the evidence for Adams' non-membership of the IRA?

Sultan_of_Ping wrote: »

Ok, it didn't make the Irish Times but it still got coverage in the national press....

Still unclear how Varadkar re-registering is a PR stunt, but Doherty taking to FB to express his deserved admiration for his spouse isn't?

Eh.....Leo is a known PR addict...has been pilloried many times before for frivolous and vanity led stunts? Has had to be stopped from wasting millions on it?

The other guy posted on FB and it was picked up by a couple of newspapers that his wife was going back into a 'full time' role.