blanch152 wrote: » FG going it solo? All 35 of them, on their own forming a government? The failure of Sinn Fein to even negotiate a bare minimum arrangement with even one party is stark.
Runaways wrote: » Then why have FG adopted half of them? Talking about this crisis and other elements of policy
Suckit wrote: » IIRC they did negotiate well with other parties, just not FFG.
blanch152 wrote: » For a start, where did those tweets of Pearse Doherty with Syriza ever go? They got deleted, just like a scene from an Orwell novel.
blanch152 wrote: » Half of what? Give examples, with links, because you are just making rubbish up.
Suckit wrote: » Like the tweets that can't be mentioned here, or the finner bots get them removed... Funny that.
Runaways wrote: » Oh Jesus you’re so tiresome Rent freezes. Ban on evictions. Flat pay rate for anyone lot their jobs. Healthcare that doesn’t discriminate. The rent freeze being the weirdest one. Fg only said weeks ago it was unconstitutional ffs And voila. Stroke of a pen it’s done. All SF policies before this crisis even
Runaways wrote: » That’s bringing up an interesting point. Tangent. FFs base are far older and dying out. I wouldn’t call their base outright conservative they got behind marriage equality in good numbers. Think the 65+ bracket nationwide was one of the biggest yes votes in that one across the spectrum. Interesting times ahead for them they’re going to have to become attractive to younger voters soon cos us middle aged remember what they did with the economy and as mane said, SF are stealing their vote in a big way.
Runaways wrote: » Which ones?
blanch152 wrote: » Yes, they have implemented them, and they have cost 20 billion, and the country is bankrupt, exactly what everyone said would happen if we followed Sinn Fein policy. Most of them will be reversed once this crisis is over. As the old saying makes clear, socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money to spend, we are learning that this year.
Suckit wrote: » :rolleyes: errmmm.. Twitter accounts going since 2011 have been suspended for posting nothing but facts, that FG didn't like.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » So the measures have cost 20 billion and the country is bankrupt? Any official link to back up your usual BS?
Runaways wrote: » Only link I can find is HSE budget is 17/18 billion this year and we’ve spent an extra 3 billion on this crisis. Blanch. As always. Talking absolute misleading hysterical nonsense
joeguevara wrote: » I think I posted on the rent freeze and ban of evictions. The emergency legislation is not the same as the previous proposed bill. Firstly the bill was prior to pandemic and was for 3 years. It was unconstitutional as it was an infringement on free market with no common good. It would have created a situation where renters could stop paying rent in the knowledge that they couldn’t be evicted. There was no reason to do so, especially with then4% increase in place. Also it has been shown in many jurisdictions that it doesn’t work. If rent was defaulted, banks would reposess houses and lead to automatic eviction. What was brought in is a rolling 3 month and it is for the common good because of the current situation and people loosing jobs in large numbers. To say that it was a uturn is not a true description.
blanch152 wrote: » 3 billion on this crisis? We will be lucky not to spend 10 times that by the time it s finished.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Funny Blanch has described himself/herself as a Green supporter yet a recent thread asking what next for the Greens guess who is missing in the comments. I described the poster in question as one of the most disingenuous posters on Boards. I don't think I was exaggerating.
Runaways wrote: » Anyone with eyes can see that. The absolute obsession with replying to posts that mention Sinn Fein wherever they’re may be, is enough though. Still convinced the myth is true. If you stand in front of a mirror at midnight and say Sinn Fein, three times, blanch will appear behind you and start ranting
blanch152 wrote: » That thread is a disaster and I am avoiding it, as for the rest, post whatever personal attack you like. I think yourself and at least another poster post much more frequently on Sinn Fein threads than I do, but then what do you care for facts?
Runaways wrote: » You’re consistent and committed and I can respect that much even if we don’t agree.
Runaways wrote: » Let’s be fair and get back to before this when they were asked to implement a rent freeze. It wasn’t for the common good according to them and going by the constitution so they said no. Rents skyrocketing constantly and nobody able to afford them..so how is it that not against the common good? Berlin of all places introduced rent freezes. And bizarrely it would have been a badly needed and massive boost for FGs standing with the public had they done it. But they didn’t. So why? And who’s really benefitting? I’ll tell you. The multiple property owning landlord class that FG depend on. And that’s a minority compared to the numbers renting obviously but how politically stupid or just arrogant do you have to be to be cosying up to the few and not the many? I know that’s more FFs game but still
Plumbthedepths wrote: » How can you respect someone who is a confirmed liar? Serious question.
Runaways wrote: » Ah I just admire commitment even if it’s wrong. We’ve elected governments for a hundred years that do the same. Imagine blanch or any of the other finnerbots put their minds and energy to such uses? It could be wonderful or appalling.
joeguevara wrote: » Rents in rent pressure zones can only be increased by 4% per annum so to say they are sky rocketing is not true, not being able to afford them is a different matter and a rent freeze wouldn’t help that. Also in most countries that has introduced it has led to a shortage of supply and higher rents for new renters.https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47028342
blanch152 wrote: » Eh no, they started to talk with other parties, but it went nowhere, absolutely nowhere.