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Relaxation of restrictions

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Simon Harris curiously made a comment that there was a limit to how long people could put up with extreme level of restrictions as we currently have. Already we’re seeing in Italy that people are starting to get restless. So two big questions:

1) on Easter Sunday, do you think there will be further restrictions, no change with just an extension or some relaxation?

2) what will be the first thing rolled back?

My own guess would be: extension for at least 1 week. Then to allow some businesses like DIY shops to reopen, perhaps allow gatherings of 2/3 people, maybe a token increase on 2km.

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SSr0

Ohmeha wrote: »

Big house party with singing and music blaring on my road last night and heard from friends similar in their own estates with groups of neighbours drinking in gardens

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3657648174276604&id=100000943735830?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=i

_Kaiser_

Padre_Pio wrote: »

The chance of gardai stopping you, finding that you shouldnt be on the road and fining you are zero.

These travel passes are just print outs saying "this person works for X company that has been deemed essential and therefore has a right to travel unimpeded blah blah"

Theres no official paperwork or anything.

I actually have a letter from the office saying that I'm classed as "essential" (financial services), but I'm asking more if AGS actually got any legal powers in the last few days to stop/fine people for travelling - not so much what the chances of running into a checkpoint are

Padre_Pio

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I thought there were fines and stuff introduced in legislation during the week, no?

This sounds like that after the high visibility checkpoints last weekend, it's actually back to normal?

So, can AGS stop people travelling or not? I've been sequestered away from my house (90 mins away) for 3 weeks now and could do with going to check on things.

The chance of gardai stopping you, finding that you shouldnt be on the road and fining you are zero.

These travel passes are just print outs saying "this person works for X company that has been deemed essential and therefore has a right to travel unimpeded blah blah"

Theres no official paperwork or anything.

Gael23

We are supposed to be going back into the office on 1 May

Ohmeha

Big house party with singing and music blaring on my road last night and heard from friends similar in their own estates with groups of neighbours drinking in gardens

_Kaiser_

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

A, no power to stop people traveling

B, Gardai haven't suddenly doubled in numbers

C, real crime is still happening

D, Gardai are also sick

It's not nearly like any other rush hour

I thought there were fines and stuff introduced in legislation during the week, no?

This sounds like that after the high visibility checkpoints last weekend, it's actually back to normal?

So, can AGS stop people travelling or not? I've been sequestered away from my house (90 mins away) for 3 weeks now and could do with going to check on things.

road_high

Nermal wrote: »

Food is essential. Are the lockdown fetishists going to start an argument over what specific foods are essential?

Yes they probably would. So long as they’ve stockpiled enough for themselves, obviously

Assetbacked

road_high wrote: »

But sure virtually nothing is open now bar food and fuel? All with strict social distancing going on. We need to know how the fcuk it’s spreading at the moment. If supermarkets are spreading it like wildfire I’d say fair enough but do we know that? Where are the majority of new cases coming from does anyone know?

The cases which have been reported to date all came from transmission prior to Paddy's Day as there is approximately a three week lag.

April 12 is the date they reckon they will start to have data on whether the measures are working or not, how well they are working and whether/for how long they need to be extended.

ILoveYourVibes

people are in denial

My course is telling people they will bring us in for exams on the 4th of may as originally planned. That is 4 weeks away.

The UK press is saying 2 weeks.

While here and there infection rates are still growing not even flattening.

Realistically Leo always said way into the summer. I think it will be sept before things go back to normal.

Nermal

RIALTO1 wrote: »

I know someone working in a chocolate factory. Still open and operating, with no social distancing. Essential apparently. Of course they can do more.

Food is essential. Are the lockdown fetishists going to start an argument over what specific foods are essential?

Gavlor

road_high wrote: »

Where are the majority of new cases coming from does anyone know?

About 3 weeks ago!

[Deleted User]

ITman88 wrote: »

Ok, so your logic is, don’t listen to this person on the internet, listen to this person on the internet instead

Eh it's a segment from channel 4 news.

[Deleted User]

Whether we agree with 2km restrictions or not they were put there for us to comply with for this 2 week period. I have absolutely hated it. I am walking around main roads instead of my usual forest and mountain treks. And that is why I have seen a huge increase in traffic in the last 2-3 days. It was deadly quiet last Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. Last few days I almost got knocked down on 2 separate occasions by speeding cars. There is nowhere else for me to walk.

The point is that I am trying to comply but if everyone else is saying fcuk this then why shouldn't I???
You see THIS is the problem with saying "sure yer man out running in the forest, or cycling 20km, or jogging on the beach is doing no harm!".......................why should ANYONE comply if that's the case, and if we see cars zooming past as usual? Its not fair to think the responsible ones should keep to the rules because we know it the right thing to do , when so many others have already stopped! It can't be one rule for some, another rule for others.

Itsalladdingup

bubblypop wrote: »

I work on the frontline, so I have to work. I have noticed a lot more traffic around the last 2 days. A lot more. Obviously more people are out & about.
All it will do is cause more restrictions being placed on us.

I thought this was me just imagining it! More talk on WhatsApp groups I’m on about friends getting antsy and bored. Human nature I guess. I hope the horror of all this doesn’t wear thin and people stay vigilant. I’m frontline too so definitely not bored. I can feel a further clampdown coming after Easter.

[Deleted User]

bubblypop wrote: »

I work on the frontline, so I have to work. I have noticed a lot more traffic around the last 2 days. A lot more. Obviously more people are out & about.
All it will do is cause more restrictions being placed on us.

you're so right, surprised this hasnt come to the attention of media yet.

Thespoofer

OK that's it, cracks beginning to appear.
Can someone start up a movement please '#openupthesites' or something, where do I sign?

Need to go back to work now.

[Deleted User]

niallo27 wrote: »

I love the posts here saying, while I was out today I noticed a lot of people walking and driving past me, why cant they stay at home. Why the **** cant you stay at home yourself ya daft bollox.

I work on the frontline, so I have to work. I have noticed a lot more traffic around the last 2 days. A lot more. Obviously more people are out & about.
All it will do is cause more restrictions being placed on us.

Speakerboxx

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

A, no power to stop people traveling

B, Gardai haven't suddenly doubled in numbers

C, real crime is still happening

D, Gardai are also sick

It's not nearly like any other rush hour

I thought there was alot of garda recruits being used for the state in these times. Some that almost had finished their training?

scamalert

dont want cars on the road sure setup a page where people can claim their road tax and insurance back for 2 weeks, then deploy guards to check, win win both ways. but as gov goes id imagine tune would change fast regarding getting economy back on track as soon as possible.

[Deleted User]

Things are definitely not normal

[Deleted User]

Speakerboxx wrote: »

The restrictions are a joke. There are more cars on the road today like a normal day. Why arent the gardai dlomg more checkpoints?

A, no power to stop people traveling

B, Gardai haven't suddenly doubled in numbers

C, real crime is still happening

D, Gardai are also sick

It's not nearly like any other rush hour

ITman88

niallo27 wrote: »

I love the posts here saying, while I was out today I noticed a lot of people walking and driving past me, why cant they stay at home. Why the **** cant you stay at home yourself ya daft bollox.

I have notice countless post like this since the so called beach fiasco a week ago.

One poster mentioned his usual beach was busy, so in disgust he went to a more remote beach.
Here he met a few people. He was horrified, and suggested more stringent restrictions.

Am I alone in thinking those attitudes are bats*** crazy

donaghs

BanditLuke wrote: »

This guy says stay home. I think we should be listening to him not some random guy on Boards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejlbCmRJMW4

I listened to 15 of 20 mins and don’t think I heard him say that.
Can you summarise rather than just post a 20 min link?

Also , what’s the plan for this year? Stay indoors?!

Sierra Oscar

Speakerboxx wrote: »

The restrictions are a joke. There are more cars on the road today like a normal day. Why arent the gardai dlomg more checkpoints?

Gardaí don't have any power to restrict people's movements and a lot of people realise this.

There were more people out and about in Dublin today than last weekend. I reckon these restrictions won't hold unless the Government actually bring in enforcement powers. I'd imagine they are reluctant to do so and are hoping most people abide by restrictions, knowing that a sizeable percentage probably won't.

niallo27

Speakerboxx wrote: »

It looked like a normal day in Ireland with traffic at a lighter scale.

Ok fair enough, your original post said it was busier which I found strange. Tbh I havent a clue about traffic as I have hardly left my house in 2 weeks.

Charles Babbage

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Britain have committed to testing 100,000 per week today, if they can. That means they will only have tested 1 million people in 10 weeks time. That is under 2% of their entire population.

The whole testing issue is not going to fix anything. If the Brits can't even test 2% of their population in the next 10 weeks what chance have we got? Think about it, the physical testing aside, the results have to be sent to a lab and then a physical person has to test each and every test. It takes time and resources both human and the physical compounds ( of which there is a limited supply ), there is simply not enough to go around. This testing mantra cannot work. It is getting overemphasised by too many people who don't fathom the reality that it is not physically possible to test everyone. In fact I would estimate that a vaccine will be found before it is possible to test everyone, I am not exaggerating.

Less labour intensive tests will be devised and will be rolled out before a vaccine can be tested.

Speakerboxx

niallo27 wrote: »

Why were you out on the road if you mind me asking and I very much doubt there were more cars than normal.

It looked like a normal day in Ireland with traffic at a lighter scale.

Speakerboxx

niallo27 wrote: »

Why were you out on the road if you mind me asking and I very much doubt there were more cars than normal.

I was driving to work. My company has been deemed an essential service by the government.

niallo27

Speakerboxx wrote: »

The restrictions are a joke. There are more cars on the road today like a normal day. Why arent the gardai dlomg more checkpoints?

Why were you out on the road if you mind me asking and I very much doubt there were more cars than normal.

Speakerboxx

The restrictions are a joke. There are more cars on the road today like a normal day. Why arent the gardai dlomg more checkpoints?