smurgen wrote: » FG and there ilk cynically asked where the magic money tree was before this. Seems like they're using a magic money tree now.
christy c wrote: » The poor lad thinks he has a degree (or masters?) in economics. Go easy on him.
Mortelaro wrote: » I'd prefer actually if at some point you'd post something that you aren't misrepresenting or ignorant of Currently most of your last few arent thought out at all Misrepresentation needs thought So it must be ignorance
ThunbergsAreGo wrote: » What would you have them do? What spending due to the crisis would you have cut?
smurgen wrote: » Era feck it I'll bite.
christy c wrote: » Bite away. A few weeks ago you were waffling about the effective rate of tax. Did you ever manage to calculate what Google's was in 2018?
smurgen wrote: » Tell me. What specifically did I get wrong? Surely if you're as cock sure as you appear it should be easy to prove.i mean it's not as if you're just casting insults to deflect is it?
smurgen wrote: » So you can't explain how FG's hands were tied by EU commission rules yet EU commission were asking them to spend more?
Mortelaro wrote: » They weren't They were suggesting a new spread of available money's At no time were they countenancing the kind of money being thrown at the coronavirus crisis on the topics covered The borrowing cap was only lifted at the end of march facilitating Covid 19 It's not surprising you don't know the difference mind you,given the quality of your posts on most everything else
smurgen wrote: » Still trying to make up your mind on what I said.i'll check in tomorrow. In the meantime here's Lieo with some anecdotes to keep us entertained.https://twitter.com/caulmick/status/1245795488466640899?s=19
Mortelaro wrote: » Oh ,I'd imagine you're well aware that what you post is garbage That's your function in these threads Its actually quite amusing in a Benny Hill sort of way,same style without the smut The plan is to clutter them up I suppose for the 4 or 5 people who read them It'd be better if the posts contained more obfuscation though rather than the rubbish But as I said earlier, that requires thinking
smurgen wrote: » I've seen nothing of substance from yourself or other Finnerbots.I'm posting in line with the threat title and intial spirit of the thread. One of the usual names will take a pop every now and attack the poster not the post and the other usual names with thank that post in a pathetic bid to add legitimacy to that attack. This cynical piling on has no impact whatsoever on me so continue on. In the meantime I'll keep posting away. Feel free to mute . If this upsets ya may I suggest you try in one of the anti SF echo chambers around here?
Mortelaro wrote: » I actually attacked the post No thought into any of them...AT ALL :eek: If you want the benefit of the doubt,post something that would last more than 5 seconds on primetime or in front of Bryan Dobson for a change My criticism of what you post is none of it ever stacks up Posters here point that out every time It's easy Too easy to be a coincidence Hence It has to be thread clusterfesting which is an amusing effort on threads that have a maximum 4 or 5 readers I suggest gardening
smurgen wrote: » If they hadn't mismanaged the longest boom period in our history we wouldn't need further austerity. Right now our infrastructure is crumbling and our rainy day fund exhausted. Some government.
smurgen wrote: » FG done nothing to help the economy.this is evident. It was a global economic boom. The evidence for this will be when we enter recession and the FG clowns tell us there's nothing we can do with unemployment because it's a global recession.total gaslighting crap.
smurgen wrote: » Era feck it I'll bite.What part of economics do I not get? I still remember most of my masters. What specific part of economic theory am I getting wrong? And be as specific as possible.note I'll argue this for awhile so make sure you do your googling .til now I've been throwing out one liners to keep the Finnerbots ticking over.
markodaly wrote: » I have to love this nonesense. Ireland has had the fastest growing economy in the EU. I will repeat, Irelend had the FASTEST growing economy in the EU. If it were all just a global economic boom, why are Ireland top of the class when it comes to things like growth and unemployment. Just pure luck I guess? Nothing to do with good policies drawing capital or investment, making it a good place to create jobs? Look at Greece. SF poster boy. It had a 17% unemployment rate last year, a youth unemployment rate of over 35%! SF fans trying to argue economics is like a one handed man trying to play the violin.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Let's all look the other way and not mention FF spectacularly collapsing our economy while FG were sitting in opposition calling for more of the same! And before you deflect, yes SF didn't cover themselves in glory either during that collapse but holding FG and FF up as paragons of fiscal wisdom is ridiculous, they are as fallible as anyone else.
markodaly wrote: » Oh here we go. The bore has come out of the daily hibernation. But lets take it this way, you blame FF for the crash, but I guess the good economic news since 2011 has been 'luck' and nothing to do with the government at the helm? You cannot have it both ways, either governments in power are be blamed for their bad mistakes and praised for good outcomes or not.
smurgen wrote: » Okay so you're saying the government didn't spend on infrastructure the last few years because they were in your words " bound by a CBD restriction under the growth and stability pact" is this right?
FrancieBrady wrote: » There have been some good policy..some bad policy and some downright appalling policy. And there has been luck too. FG dropped to 20% of the vote for a reason mark and they rehabilitated the party that sunk the country in the process. If you don't want to confront the realities of why that happened that's your problem.
markodaly wrote: » So, we are back to the inane hurler on the ditch mode. Good to know. I swear, at this stage, you just copy and paste your responses from one big word doco. I don't think you have said anything original for about 3 months now.
FrancieBrady wrote: » When you figure out and confront why you are down to 20% of the vote, get back to us. You might find that 'confrontation' tallies with what we are saying.
markodaly wrote: » :rolleyes: Again, you totally ignore my post. .
Double down and deflect, with some disparaging content.
smurgen wrote: » Keep using the word balderdash,it might start making sense if you use it another 2/3 times maybe. Meanwhile caretaker government spending away with minimal supervision and treating the press using Trumpesque tactics.https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1245851088898740224?s=19
tobsey wrote: » That was Bowie’s, or Matt Barrett's favourite line on these threads, that FG made FF electable and that was somehow damning on FG. In fact FF’s vote didn’t really grow at all in the latest election. They bounced back a bit in 2016 from their wipeout in 2011 but have stagnated since. The biggest gains by far were by SF, so if anything FG’s performance boosted SF. I’d have thought you’d be happy with that. Why you’re saying FG’s losses are a benefit to FF is strange. The numbers don’t support that.
