Loafing Oaf wrote: » But it won't be feasible for huge numbers of them to do this in a 'watertight' way: elderly people living with children/grandchildren for instance.
hmmm wrote: » We don't need to test everyone to get the spread down. We need to find people with symptoms. We trace their close contacts. We test the contacts. We are scaling up to thousands of people doing contact tracing, and the capability to do 15,000 tests a day.
easypazz wrote: » In simple english bojo and donald thought they were smart, and now thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, will die and their medical professionals will endure incredible turmoil. Whether by pure luck or whatever, our leader is also a GP and got all the medical stuff the first time it was presented to him and acted swiftly.
lord quackinton wrote: » At the moment our figures are not great I am not trying to be political but we have a high death rate for our population We could easily end up with one of the highest European death rates, we are Currently top 15 My point is the Irish government and the health professionals have done well as they could Will you blame the Chinese, Italian, Spanish , french leaders for being smart and causing the deaths of thousands?
easypazz wrote: » the UK, Health Secretary Matt Hancock -- who has himself just emerged from self-isolation after testing positive for Covid-19 -- suggested that Britons who've had the virus might be issued with a certificate, which has already been dubbed an immunity passport. "We are looking at an immunity certificate, how people who've had the disease, have got the antibodies and therefore have immunity, can show that and get back as much as possible to normal life," he said.
BanditLuke wrote: » Think they will be looking at bringing in extra restrictions tbh. I've noticed a lot of extra cars, cyclists, joggers, families, teenagers etc...going down the main road past the house the last couple of days. I'm praying for sh1t weather to keep these idiots inside as the message doesn't seem to be hitting home.
easypazz wrote: » As long as they are engaged in social distancing what is the issue?
rob316 wrote: » Stop with your making sense, they're killing granny
donaghs wrote: » If social distancing lockdown is becoming unquestionable Dogma, the religious zealot hardline faction won’t tolerate a dog walker or a cyclist, and logical arguments have no place in dogma.
Jurgen Klopp wrote: » One thing I've seen some say is a next step if people don't adere and numbers keeps going is people not allowed to leave homes and the army and police to drop basics to every door How in the fcuk could that be managed here? Quick googling gives the Gardai number about 14,500 and the army with reservists is circa 9,000 Even if you drag in the naval and reserve personal it gives about 1,400, Air Corps 733 So that's not even 1,000 personnel for each of the 26 counties to go door to door? I think the highest we can go here compared to current lockdown is no one to leave the house unless for necessary stuff but can't really enforce it. Kinds bolloxed after that really IMO
Jurgen Klopp wrote: » I think the max this country is capable of doing even if we wanted to is telling people they can't leave their homes at all unless for work, food or emergencies. Even at that bar some checkpoints we can't really enforce it I'd say really.
road_high wrote: » But sure virtually nothing is open now bar food and fuel? All with strict social distancing going on. We need to know how the fcuk it’s spreading at the moment. If supermarkets are spreading it like wildfire I’d say fair enough but do we know that? Where are the majority of new cases coming from does anyone know?
road_high wrote: » I think we’ve done extremely well with huge public buy in. Go too hard and that will be lost and people will say “fcuk this” and risk it. Where exactly are there any large groups of people in close social contact now really going on anymore? I think we’ve done all we can, the focus needs to be on the high risk settings now
lainey_d_123 wrote: » Surely most of the current cases are not that new? They're people who were infected up to a couple of weeks ago and only now showing symptoms. As to where else it's coming from, doctor's surgeries and hospitals are a good bet. People who are vulnerable are going to be spending time in those places due to their existing conditions. All it takes is one person to have the virus coughing in the waiting room, and they've just infected everyone, and probably the doctor and the reception staff. People working in supermarkets and shops are also vulnerable. All it takes is one person coming it and coughing or sneezing a bit too close and then the employee has it, and everyone they live with.
Stheno wrote: » Most doctors in Ireland do consultations by phone now and you only go to the surgery if absolutely necessary I know with my doctor that you wait in your car until they are ready to see you Are you based in the UK or Ireland?
lainey_d_123 wrote: » I'm in London. Hardly anyone has a car and if they do, they don't drive it to the doctor. Mine doesn't even have a car park. It is necessary to go to the surgery if you need blood tests or something like that and some hospital appointments are essential, as is A&E if you really need it. My friend went to A&E the other week with a broken ankle and there were people coughing in the waiting area. Lots of people will have to go to the hospital for some other reason and be exposed to the virus. These situations are far, far more likely to spread the virus compared to people cycling in the park or going out for a walk in the sun.
lainey_d_123 wrote: » It's just becoming ridiculous and hysterical. There is absolutely fcuk all wrong with people exercising and getting some sun, if they're respecting social distancing. Nothing at all. The chances of spreading a virus when you're walking in a forest or jogging through a field is minute. Perhaps instead of shaming people who are just trying to keep fit and mentally well, people should put more effort into helping those who are high risk or actually ill with covid-19 so they don't have to venture out to get food, putting themselves and others at risk. Might give the busybodies something to do.
