Relaxation of restrictions

KiKi III wrote: »

Yeah, all we have to do is indefinitely cocoon
- everyone over 70
- the 400k people with asthma
- the 225k people with diabetes
- everyone who has cancer or is recently recovered
- everyone who has recently had a transplant
- everyone who is pregnant

... that’s workable. No need to worry about how these people will go to work, get to medical appointments, do their shopping, or socialist. Sacrifice the lot of them because we can’t do a four week quarantine.

Seriously, do you think 4 weeks quarantine will make it all go away?

wpd wrote: »

given the state the economy is going to be i fear
how many people are going to die in coming years in an already crumbling health service that
is going to be cut to the bone

Projections are grim regarding that.

A study claimed that the last recession had a worse effect on life than covid.

ITman88 wrote: »

By April 12 the curve will be flattened sufficiently to reopen

Wanna make a bet on that? 50 quid says your absolutely talking through your arse.

Raconteuse

scamalert wrote: »

i wonder how some here will cope with reality when dole is cut off and they will be told go back to work, or more likely go find one :cool:

Wonder how many will go hysteric after its announced and they will be kicking the usual doomsday tune, oh no i cant its to dangerous for me sort of BS.

As by the looks quite portion here seem dug in for it to last 3-6 months at very least.

Who has said they want it for three to six months and are happy not to be working?

Acceptance of a situation because of no alternative is not the same as being happy about it.

Who has said it's dangerous for themselves? It's concern for other people mostly.

VinLieger wrote: »

Ahh I see and your projection says something different?

No but I didn’t explicitly say it was fact

KiKi III wrote: »

Yeah, all we have to do is indefinitely cocoon
- everyone over 70
- the 400k people with asthma
- the 225k people with diabetes
- everyone who has cancer or is recently recovered
- everyone who has recently had a transplant
- everyone who is pregnant

... that’s workable. No need to worry about how these people will go to work, get to medical appointments, do their shopping, or socialist. Sacrifice the lot of them because we can’t do a four week quarantine.

Ok using your logic what we will do quarantine everyone for the rest of time????

Those people are already isolating

No one said we can’t do this for 4 weeks, any longer though and we need to consider the economy.

By April 12 the curve will be flattened sufficiently to reopen

ITman88 wrote: »

Because it’s not a fact.

It’s a projection

Ahh I see and your projection says something different?

timmy_mallet

shocksy wrote: »

If you believe this will end Sunday week you are delusional.

There is no chance this ends for many many weeks. F*ck the economy for now. It's not important. It will recover when the time is right. Dead people can't recover.

The economy is not important. Right.

easypazz wrote: »

Herd immunity, as more people get it the pressure eases off.

It needs to be a balanced exit strategy.

Take the old people out of the firing line, that reduces the death count, then gradually ease restrictions and see how many need assistance.

So exactly what we have already planned on doing once the curve has flattened enough, which is deffinitely not yet and probably wont be for another 2 weeks at least.

wpd

there are ten kids out side my house now kicking football together for 5 different houses
2 of their parents work in the health service in front line roles

who are we kidding with this lockdown, garda leaning in the windows of cars asking where they are going!
i see neighbours going walking together, planes still arriving from all over the world in dublin and no
temparture checks or enforced quaratines.

all we are doing is slowing this a little bit, still going to happen, still going to overwhelm our health service and now
the economy is f**ked for another 10 years at least

VinLieger wrote: »

And hospitals will still be overwhelmed by patients as while those ages are the most vulnerable many many young people still require hospitalisation to beat this thing.

How do people still not understand this simple fact?

Because it’s not a fact.

It’s a projection

KiKi III

bubblypop wrote: »

Is that not what I said?
Current restrictions will be extended

I quoted the wrong person by accident - sorry!

KiKi III

easypazz wrote: »

Worded harshly but it looks like if we cocoon the elderly for a while things can start to return toward normal.

I would like to see more detail on the deaths.

Yeah, all we have to do is indefinitely cocoon
- everyone over 70
- the 400k people with asthma
- the 225k people with diabetes
- everyone who has cancer or is recently recovered
- everyone who has recently had a transplant
- everyone who is pregnant

... that’s workable. No need to worry about how these people will go to work, get to medical appointments, do their shopping, or socialist. Sacrifice the lot of them because we can’t do a four week quarantine.

[Deleted User]

KiKi III wrote: »

Coveney literally just said the current restrictions would likely be extended. Your post is wishful thinking.

Is that not what I said?
Current restrictions will be extended

scamalert

i wonder how some here will cope with reality when dole is cut off and they will be told go back to work, or more likely go find one :cool:

Wonder how many will go hysteric after its announced and they will be kicking the usual doomsday tune, oh no i cant its to dangerous for me sort of BS.

As by the looks quite portion here seem dug in for it to last 3-6 months at very least.

wpd

given the state the economy is going to be i fear
how many people are going to die in coming years in an already crumbling health service that
is going to be cut to the bone

VinLieger wrote: »

And hospitals will still be overwhelmed by patients as while those ages are the most vulnerable many many young people still require hospitalisation to beat this thing.

How do people still not understand this simple fact?

Herd immunity, as more people get it the pressure eases off.

It needs to be a balanced exit strategy.

Take the old people out of the firing line, that reduces the death count, then gradually ease restrictions and see how many need assistance.

easypazz wrote: »

A few geriatrics mainly clustered in nursing homes make up the most of what has died so far.

Take out anybody over 70 and how many are dead?

How many of the under 60's would have died in the same period in car crashes alone.

Lets cocoon anybody on pension age and start going back to work so that we can provide the support these older people need.

And hospitals will still be overwhelmed by patients as while those ages are the most vulnerable many many young people still require hospitalisation to beat this thing.

How do people still not understand this simple fact?

Stheno wrote: »

That's s bit callous

Worded harshly but it looks like if we cocoon the elderly for a while things can start to return toward normal.

I would like to see more detail on the deaths.

Jurgen Klopp

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Seeing as we share a land border it would be nice if the UK and the Republic were synchronised.

Did the North and Republic not agree a joint approach yesterday?

ITman88 wrote: »

State exams going ahead.

Restrictions will be lifted soon enough, I think the powers that be will make the most sensible decision for us April 12th will see a relaxing of current restrictions and hopefully schools back.

Lol you think they will lift the restrictions 2 days before the current projected peak?

Stheno

easypazz wrote: »

A few geriatrics mainly clustered in nursing homes make up the most of what has died so far.

Take out anybody over 70 and how many are dead?

How many of the under 60's would have died in the same period in car crashes alone.

Lets cocoon anybody on pension age and start going back to work so that we can provide the support these older people need.

That's s bit callous

ITman88 wrote: »

State exams going ahead.

Restrictions will be lifted soon enough, I think the powers that be will make the most sensible decision for us April 12th will see a relaxing of current restrictions and hopefully schools back.

A few geriatrics mainly clustered in nursing homes make up the most of what has died so far.

Take out anybody over 70 and how many are dead?

How many of the under 60's would have died in the same period in car crashes alone.

Lets cocoon anybody on pension age and start going back to work so that we can provide the support these older people need.

KiKi III

bubblypop wrote: »

No they won't. Schools won't be back before summer holidays.
Also, these restrictions will remain after April 12.
Couple more weeks, worth it in the long run....

Coveney literally just said the current restrictions would likely be extended. Your post is wishful thinking.

Stheno

ITman88 wrote: »

State exams going ahead.

Restrictions will be lifted soon enough, I think the powers that be will make the most sensible decision for us April 12th will see a relaxing of current restrictions and hopefully schools back.

I doubt that

I've been working from home since early March, no one in my team expects to go back to the office befor at least mid May if not June

odyssey06

jmayo wrote: »

If there is ever a major war again in this part of the world it will probably last all of a week before the white flag is raised lest anyone be discommoded, anyone suffer a mental breakdown or the economy suffers.

I think you'll find you couldn't fight a war for very long without an economy.

Discommoded? Not even worth a response to deliberately baiting words.

Hamsterchops

HBC08 wrote: »

We're doing a decent job under very stressful circumstances and don't need to be looking to the UK for advice or anything else.

Seeing as we share a land border it would be nice if the UK and the Republic were synchronised.

[Deleted User]

ITman88 wrote: »

Restrictions will be lifted soon enough, I think the powers that be will make the most sensible decision for us April 12th will see a relaxing of current restrictions and hopefully schools back.

No they won't. Schools won't be back before summer holidays.
Also, these restrictions will remain after April 12.
Couple more weeks, worth it in the long run....

State exams going ahead.

Restrictions will be lifted soon enough, I think the powers that be will make the most sensible decision for us April 12th will see a relaxing of current restrictions and hopefully schools back.