Blueshoe wrote: » It is mild though. Look at Spain, France and Italy. It's a mild lockdown. People need to suck it up at get on with it. One week in and people are showing what they are really made of.
GreeBo wrote: » Yeah as ably demonstrated in howth, sally gap, Bray head and various other popular sites around Ireland.
Pheonix10 wrote: » No its not mild in comparison. It is the same as the UKs & most countries you are allowed out to shops for necessary groceries. It's very similar.
Blueshoe wrote: » You can and it will. If restrictions are eased too much and too quickly and we end up with a second wave of infections the sh1t will really hit the fan. This "lockdown" we are having here is mild compared to some of our euro neighbors.
storker wrote: » It's overrated.
easypazz wrote: » I agree that was wrong, a proper queue system, well policed, with the 2 metre rule would solve that one. Responsibility rests with the operator, and if you don't comply you get shut down. People are getting used to the 2 metre rule better now too.
Ger Roe wrote: » You didn't see the long tight queues for ice cream and chips at Bray, Glendalough, Howth etc, so.
easypazz wrote: » While I saw pictures of lots of cars and busy carparks I didn't see people mixing outside their own family group. With all these places closed it may mean a bigger congregation in city centre outdoor areas, thus a greater spread of risk.
/\/ollog wrote: » To be devils advocate; people die all the time with or without a virus that attacks the respiratory system.
easypazz wrote: » Its been longer than that. The measures introduced last week would have made an extra little bit of difference but the social distancing has been around over 2 weeks now.
Gael23 wrote: » Obviously if you are high risk and in poor health you are going to remain indoors. But it’s not good for people’s mental health to be cocooned indefinitely
oceanman wrote: » I don't have a counterargument, I just don't think any government would risk it so soon.... think of the fallout if they get it wrong!
Ace2007 wrote: » If you work in an office you will know that people work when they have colds because the work needs to be done, it's not right, and as you say it should change, but more than likely it wont'.
CtevenSrowder wrote: » Human interaction.
timmy_mallet wrote: » Are people not doing this anyway? If you feel a cough etc. avoid vulnerable people, stay home from work if feasible, and dont visit a nursing. These are things we should be doing anyway. Maybe post this peak it will become more normal.
Ace2007 wrote: » There are millions of people around the world imprisoned. Plus they are in their own homes, they have food, water, heat - you come across as someone who doesn't know what it's like to be poor - They were showing footage of people in India having to walk hundred of kilometers back to their native towns, as they have little money and lost their jobs. You'd swear this what was in China were people had chains around their doors and weren't allowed out. What about the parents of high risk children? Honest question - how would you fee if you child were to get very sick and/or die because restrictions were lifted. Also Gael - would you have the same attitude if the mortality rate for the over 70's was the same as for children or say those between 30-45?
easypazz wrote: » Its not about providing adequate healthcare, its about providing adequate supports for them to cocoon and make it as comfortable as possible. For example, test the children and grandchildren of grandparents, then we know its safe for them to spend a weekend together etc.
easypazz wrote: » Maybe they are right? I can't see why, by the end of this month, if cases and deaths stabilise, with increased testing, that we can't relax restrictions to allow hardware shops to open and people allowed exercise more than 2kM. What is your counterargument to retaining the current level of restrictions if numbers don't explode from here.
Gael23 wrote: » The restrictions on the over 70s who are in good health cannot go on indefinitely. You can’t imprison people
TheCitizen wrote: » As another poster says we are in the early stages of the pandemic. It's too early to push the panic button. We need to assess how the measures have impacted and we have countries like China and South Korea to study on this. They're coming out of lockdown now after 3 months.
easypazz wrote: » Thank you for consistently giving us your detailed viewpoints to counter other peoples arguments. Well done, 2 gold stars in the post for you.
oceanman wrote: » what more do you need?
TheCitizen wrote: » Listen to Doom and Gloom here.
TheCitizen wrote: » Lay off the disaster porn ITman it's addictive. "Oh the horror", pass the popcorn
