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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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Donald Trump

eagle eye wrote: »

He flew from the US to the UAE to Russia. How is that doing the right thing? The right thing was to stay in the US and stay safe.

Irish people were being urged to return home from the US. Two videos below from the Irish Ambassador. The smart thing to do is to get home when you can (taking all possible proper precautions of course). I would imagine that any foreign MMA fighter in US would not have long term status there and would need to get out too while they can

https://twitter.com/DanMulhall/status/1243620713191354369

https://twitter.com/DanMulhall/status/1244710997769818117

Tazzimus

eagle eye wrote: »

We only have his word as regards the UAE, he never set foot in the country as he claims he was refused entry. Is his whole team that stupid that they would fly somewhere without first making sure it was ok?
It stinks of bs.

Even if it is, the part of my post you didn't quote still stands, he did the right thing getting out of the US.

eagle eye

Tazzimus wrote:

He flew to UAE as the UFC told him they were 99% sure thats where the fight was going to take place so he wanted to acclimatise himself. He then flew home as they were closing their borders, then Russia closed their borders. Would you prefer he be stranded in America away from his family?

We only have his word as regards the UAE, he never set foot in the country as he claims he was refused entry. Is his whole team that stupid that they would fly somewhere without first making sure it was ok?
It stinks of bs.

Tazzimus

eagle eye wrote: »

He flew from the US to the UAE to Russia. How is that doing the right thing? The right thing was to stay in the US and stay safe.

He flew to UAE as the UFC told him they were 99% sure thats where the fight was going to take place so he wanted to acclimatise himself.
He then flew home as they were closing their borders, then Russia closed their borders. Would you prefer he be stranded in America away from his family?

He did the right thing getting out of the US regardless of the above, they're gonna be royally ****ed in the next few weeks.

eagle eye

PyreOfHellfire wrote:

I hold a lot against Conor and this is just another thing I would gladly hold against him. quote]
Well you can just be ignored from now on so.

eagle eye

Tazzimus wrote:

Khabib also did the right thing by flying home from UAE to be with his family while he was able to get to them.

He flew from the US to the UAE to Russia. How is that doing the right thing? The right thing was to stay in the US and stay safe.

Tazzimus

spix wrote: »

You'd think he'd put out a statement explaining how he wont fight due to the situation.

Why would he need to do this, the world knows about Covid-19 and the need to minimise interaction with others.
Expecting him to travel to another country that's massively infected is just moronic. America hasn't even started to see the worst of this yet.

He's doing the right thing and staying out of it while all this is going on.
Khabib also did the right thing by flying home from UAE to be with his family while he was able to get to them.

snoopboggybog

The USA is will continue to get worse and worse with CoronoaVirus. Just look at New York.

People giving about Conor with this crisis is just pathetic. Will he fight and stay isolated from his children and family for a few weeks after going home.

Time is on Conor's side and not on Tony's side.

He doesn't need this fight. Doesn't need to fight behind closed doors.

Conor is 31. He has plenty of time.

He is waiting for the winner of this fight and will fight then and wouldn't blame him in the slightest.

He's worth 100 million or more, why do two fights when you can just do one of the winner of Khabib versus Tony and see what happens.

Mellor

spix wrote: »

They don't need to, its just Conor was going on and on about how often he wanted to fight this year and how the whole reason behind fighting cerrone at 170 was so he wouldn't have to cut weight twice in a short period as he was expecting to slot into ufc 249 if one dropped out. Then this happens and silence

You'd think he'd put out a statement explaining how he wont fight due to the situation. Or throw a jab at khabib as it was pretty stupid he'd leave the USA alone whilst all other parties involved remained there. He shouldn't have moved anywhere until the location was confirmed or everyone else involved in the fight (ufc+tony) was traveling also.

But Conor is just acting like nothing happened when its big news in his division, the fight everyone was waiting for after being cancelled 4 times before and he has nothing to say? I know the coronavirus situation is terrible and all but it hasn't stopped other fighters from their usual trash talking, lets not pretend conor is just more respectful than them by being silent during the pandemic.

Having it in the states is unclear, it doesn't even appear to have a venue.
If Conor was to fly into the states he'd have to isolate. Conor, or any overseas fighter being the replacement, isn't really an option. I don't think making statement has a purpose.

The US is screwed. I don't blame anyone for getting out when they can given the disregard Trump has shown the situation.

spix

riffmongous wrote: »

They'll have to pay the bills in the present though before they get to the future; the training camps, coaches, travel and all the everyday costs everybody has. They'll need the money from an upcoming fight, it's probably already been budgeted for. McGregor and Khabib won't, they can afford to wait it out, if they want more money they can just wait a few months and make it then, neither have shown any inclination to rush out to make more the last years so why would they need to now

They don't need to, its just Conor was going on and on about how often he wanted to fight this year and how the whole reason behind fighting cerrone at 170 was so he wouldn't have to cut weight twice in a short period as he was expecting to slot into ufc 249 if one dropped out. Then this happens and silence.

You'd think he'd put out a statement explaining how he wont fight due to the situation. Or throw a jab at khabib as it was pretty stupid he'd leave the USA alone whilst all other parties involved remained there. He shouldn't have moved anywhere until the location was confirmed or everyone else involved in the fight (ufc+tony) was traveling also.

But Conor is just acting like nothing happened when its big news in his division, the fight everyone was waiting for after being cancelled 4 times before and he has nothing to say? I know the coronavirus situation is terrible and all but it hasn't stopped other fighters from their usual trash talking, lets not pretend conor is just more respectful than them by being silent during the pandemic.

[Deleted User]

spix wrote: »

I think them winning is much more important for earning more money in the future, so they wouldn't want to compete in these kind of circumstances but they still are. Conor could show up, win, lose, whatever, it doesn't matter, he'd still get millions this and next fight. Doesn't matter how rich you are, everyone wants more money. So I really don't see why he would turn down this fight other than he wasn't being serious when he said he'd take it if someone dropped out.

They'll have to pay the bills in the present though before they get to the future; the training camps, coaches, travel and all the everyday costs everybody has. They'll need the money from an upcoming fight, it's probably already been budgeted for. McGregor and Khabib won't, they can afford to wait it out, if they want more money they can just wait a few months and make it then, neither have shown any inclination to rush out to make more the last years so why would they need to now

Donald Trump

Sofiztikated wrote: »

There isn't a chance that 249 is going ahead, regardless of who says they are fighting on the card.

Do they not make most of their money from the TV?

If they could get medical approval to do it (maybe by having everyone tested there be free of corona) then I'd imagine the money-men would be mad for it.

All the bored eejits at home and nothing else at all on the telly. No basketball, American football, soccer, whatever. Captive audience.

Sofiztikated

There isn't a chance that 249 is going ahead, regardless of who says they are fighting on the card.

sonofenoch

spix wrote: »

Yes its terrible, which is why he shouldn't use it as an excuse to back out of doing what he said he would. The fact remains if the card is going ahead and several other fighters are fighting then its totally possible that conor could, if he wanted to. Why wouldn't he want to make millions, show he was serious about stepping in no matter what the hurdle, and provide a night of entertainment to everyone stuck at home.

It won't ....you're all on as many drug as you purport McGregror is if you think otherwise

Donald Trump

spix wrote: »

Obviously there could be exemptions for private flights with just a few people onboard. Which is why I don't believe khabibs excuse. Why would he travel in advance apparently trying to make sure he was at the fight location incase there was lockdowns, whilst his opponent and the rest of the event was left behind. Should've waited for confirmation of location and traveled with the UFC but done his own thing, just like going to the hospital and getting pulled from the tony fight before, dana said if he had contacted the ufc first that wouldn't have happened.

There would be no exemptions with US immigration. You'll get in if you have dual citizenship and have a US passport or one from an area not currently banned. Only other option might be a diplomatic passport.

spix

riffmongous wrote: »

Of course the ones getting paid peanuts will want to show up, they need the money much more than the guys at the top will

I think them winning is much more important for earning more money in the future, so they wouldn't want to compete in these kind of circumstances but they still are. Conor could show up, win, lose, whatever, it doesn't matter, he'd still get millions this and next fight. Doesn't matter how rich you are, everyone wants more money. So I really don't see why he would turn down this fight other than he wasn't being serious when he said he'd take it if someone dropped out.

[Deleted User]

spix wrote: »

Imo you should hold it against him as all the other fighters have to deal with the same thing yet they're getting paid peanuts and still manage to show up. If Conor doesn't take the fight, the virus is just a convenient excuse to back out of what he said he would do.

Of course the ones getting paid peanuts will want to show up, they need the money much more than the guys at the top will

Tazzimus

spix wrote: »

Yes its terrible, which is why he shouldn't use it as an excuse to back out of doing what he said he would. The fact remains if the card is going ahead and several other fighters are fighting then its totally possible that conor could, if he wanted to. Why wouldn't he want to make millions, show he was serious about stepping in no matter what the hurdle, and provide a night of entertainment to everyone stuck at home.

Ah here, I think a global pandemic is a fairly legit excuse not to leave the house..
I would question the mentality of anyone giving him **** for not traveling to another country during all this.

spix

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Convenient excuse? Do you know what's going on in the world right now? Jaysis christ lads

Yes its terrible, which is why he shouldn't use it as an excuse to back out of doing what he said he would. The fact remains if the card is going ahead and several other fighters are fighting then its totally possible that conor could, if he wanted to. Why wouldn't he want to make millions, show he was serious about stepping in no matter what the hurdle, and provide a night of entertainment to everyone stuck at home.

PyreOfHellfire

monty_python wrote: »

He has released videos about the virus telling people to stay home. It would be very hypocritical if him to fly to USA for work right now

Conor isn't exactly known for being anything other than a hypocrite though

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

While covid is around all bets are off. If you would hold it against him it doesn't say a lot about you tbh

Oh do climb down of your pedestal there Mr high and mighty. I hold a lot against Conor and this is just another thing I would gladly hold against him. This is Dana White and Conor Mcgregor we are talking about here, money talks and the PPV number from a Conor Tony fight would be insane on it's own merit and doubly so with no other sport to compete with. The only thing to bet on is that this card WILL go ahead. WME/IMG have alot of debt to pay off and now is the perfect time to rake in the money with no other competitor. I'm sure Conor can self isolate in his 10 bedroom mansion for a few weeks after the even is over....

LollipopJimmy

spix wrote: »

Imo you should hold it against him as all the other fighters have to deal with the same thing yet they're getting paid peanuts and still manage to show up. If Conor doesn't take the fight, the virus is just a convenient excuse to back out of what he said he would do.

Convenient excuse? Do you know what's going on in the world right now? Jaysis christ lads

spix

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

While covid is around all bets are off. If you would hold it against him it doesn't say a lot about you tbh

Imo you should hold it against him as all the other fighters have to deal with the same thing yet they're getting paid peanuts and still manage to show up. If Conor doesn't take the fight, the virus is just a convenient excuse to back out of what he said he would do.

LollipopJimmy

PyreOfHellfire wrote: »

I would blame him personally. If he wants a rematch with Khabib then knocking out Tony on 2 weeks notice would shut up alot of haters and Khabib wouldn't be able to say no to it. He would be mad not to take this opportunity and judging by his social media he has been training for this fight too.

While covid is around all bets are off. If you would hold it against him it doesn't say a lot about you tbh

spix

Tazzimus wrote: »

Hasn't the US banned flights from Europe?

Obviously there could be exemptions for private flights with just a few people onboard. Which is why I don't believe khabibs excuse. Why would he travel in advance apparently trying to make sure he was at the fight location incase there was lockdowns, whilst his opponent and the rest of the event was left behind. Should've waited for confirmation of location and traveled with the UFC but done his own thing, just like going to the hospital and getting pulled from the tony fight before, dana said if he had contacted the ufc first that wouldn't have happened.

monty_python

PyreOfHellfire wrote: »

I would blame him personally. If he wants a rematch with Khabib then knocking out Tony on 2 weeks notice would shut up alot of haters and Khabib wouldn't be able to say no to it. He would be mad not to take this opportunity and judging by his social media he has been training for this fight too.

He has released videos about the virus telling people to stay home. It would be very hypocritical if him to fly to USA for work right now

spix

Still Ill wrote: »

I think the global pandemic changes things somewhat. Definitely wouldn't blame him for not wanting to fight in the current climate.

Maybe.. if he was fighting for free. But he'd make alot of money along with proving he was serious when he said he would step it. Theres several other people fighting on the same card so if the virus is given as a reason its just an excuse to back out of what he said he would do.

Tazzimus

Hasn't the US banned flights from Europe?

Whelo79

I'd love to see him take it but I don't think he will or even if he did I doubt it would go ahead.

Whatever training he has been doing it would be in no way equivalent to a full fight camp and nowhere near enough to take a fight against Tony Ferguson on 2 weeks notice. Ferguson has cardio for days and a solid ground game, McGregor's two weakest aspects.

It's probably still highly unlikely the card will go ahead anyway. There is no confirmed venue, limited possibilities of getting a flight out of the country, flights into the USA from Europe are banned. Too many hurdles for this to happen.

PyreOfHellfire

Still Ill wrote: »

I think the global pandemic changes things somewhat. Definitely wouldn't blame him for not wanting to fight in the current climate.

I would blame him personally. If he wants a rematch with Khabib then knocking out Tony on 2 weeks notice would shut up alot of haters and Khabib wouldn't be able to say no to it. He would be mad not to take this opportunity and judging by his social media he has been training for this fight too.

Still Ill

spix wrote: »

Khabib most likely out of UFC 249. If Conor doesn't step in like he said he would, he will never hear the end of it, especially as it was supposedly what he predicted would happen and planned for it.

I think the global pandemic changes things somewhat. Definitely wouldn't blame him for not wanting to fight in the current climate.