Lollipops23 wrote: » People can't stay indoors indefinitely.
CaoinDory wrote: » This post intrigues me. What about the people who have such severe immun deficincys that they live their lives in a buuble within a house? Those people who have such severe conditions that they are forced to live their lives in a hospital bed and never go outside? People can stay indoors indefinitely if they have to. I think that statement is unfair to some.
Larbre34 wrote: » Come off it, its as damaging to their mental health as it is for anyone else that would be subjected to it now. Anyone with an elderly parent or whatever, whose health has deteriorated and they have become home or bed bound will tell you the damage it has done to their sense of self and desire for life. In fact it often hastens death.
Skyfloater wrote: » The people who are calling for a lockdown "for however long it takes" should reacquaint themselves with the devastation caused by the Great Depression of the 1930's, the millions of lives foreshortened by malnutrition, hypothermia and lack of basic healthcare. Far, far more than covid 19 will ever claim. On another point, the median age of the deceased in Italy is 80.5! That's a fine age to last for. What do some people here think happens when you hit your eighty's? What happens is, you get sick and then you die. Why is that such a shock for some people.
nthclare wrote: » I could for the greater good in solidarity with my fellow human beings. As I have all the time in the world to get back out there. Id do it if it helps for everyone, because there's no point in being a sanctimonious pr1cK boasting about my freedom while others are held inside for weeks. So I'm accepting this could happen.
martingriff wrote: » Well for my grandmother another 23 years and all but last 5 years was in better shape then me at times. My mother did not reach 80 she died of a tumour and watching her die over the last few months was torture so EXCUSE ME AND OTHERS who do not want to see there loved ones die so you can go out and about and go on your fabulous holiday. If you show you can follow the advice given then we can all get through this and no lockdown would be needed. But unfortunately some lockdown will be needed because of people who don't want to see short term pain for health for everyone. Also are you forgetting those who are not old but have underlying health issue f£$% them also I suppose
Skyfloater wrote: » Good for her, but it doesn't change the fact the median lifespan in Ireland 84 and 80.5.
Sam the Sham wrote: » Even if that’s true, it’s irrelevant. The median lie expectancy of someone 80 years old is not 84.
DeVore wrote: » This is very serious for everyone. Some more than others but if you watch the stuff coming out of Italy (and now other locations) its quite clear that this is a danger to all. Young people recover but some require critical care or even ventilation. When those things arent available (because they are all already gone to other young people for example) the mortality rate sky rockets for the young. This isnt just about "old people" and "sick people". It will impact everyone. And that shouldnt matter to you anyway....
McCrack wrote: » Stop scaremongering, the vast majority 94 to 98 percent of contracted cases are not fatal, and that includes young, immunosuppressed and elderly people
thecomedian wrote: » For how long?
BoatMad wrote: » The evidence is those that recover from any sort of serious bout they can loose 10-30% lung function permanently This is not some form of mild flu
YFlyer wrote: » Two months.
Good evening, The coronavirus is the biggest threat this country has faced for decades – and this country is not alone. All over the world we are seeing the devastating impact of this invisible killer And so tonight I want to update you on the latest steps we are taking to fight the disease and what you can do to help. And I want to begin by reminding you why the UK has been taking the approach that we have. Without a huge national effort to halt the growth of this virus, there will come a moment when no health service in the world could possibly cope; because there won’t be enough ventilators, enough intensive care beds, enough doctors and nurses. And as we have seen elsewhere, in other countries that also have fantastic health care systems, that is the moment of real danger. To put it simply, if too many people become seriously unwell at one time, the NHS will be unable to handle it – meaning more people are likely to die, not just from coronavirus but from other illnesses as well. So it’s vital to slow the spread of the disease. Because that is the way we reduce the number of people needing hospital treatment at any one time, so we can protect the NHS’s ability to cope – and save more lives. And that’s why we have been asking people to stay at home during this pandemic. And though huge numbers are complying – and I thank you all – the time has now come for us all to do more. From this evening I must give the British people a very simple instruction – you must stay at home. Because the critical thing we must do is stop the disease spreading between households. That is why people will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes: shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible one form of exercise a day – for example a run, walk, or cycle – alone or with members of your household; any medical need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person; and travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home. That’s all – these are the only reasons you should leave your home. You should not be meeting friends. If your friends ask you to meet, you should say No. You should not be meeting family members who do not live in your home. You should not be going shopping except for essentials like food and medicine – and you should do this as little as you can. And use food delivery services where you can. If you don’t follow the rules the police will have the powers to enforce them, including through fines and dispersing gatherings. To ensure compliance with the Government’s instruction to stay at home, we will immediately: close all shops selling non-essential goods, including clothing and electronic stores and other premises including libraries, playgrounds and outdoor gyms, and places of worship; we will stop all gatherings of more than two people in public – excluding people you live with; and we’ll stop all social events, including weddings, baptisms and other ceremonies, but excluding funerals. Parks will remain open for exercise but gatherings will be dispersed. No prime minister wants to enact measures like this. I know the damage that this disruption is doing and will do to people’s lives, to their businesses and to their jobs. And that’s why we have produced a huge and unprecedented programme of support both for workers and for business. And I can assure you that we will keep these restrictions under constant review. We will look again in three weeks, and relax them if the evidence shows we are able to. But at present there are just no easy options. The way ahead is hard, and it is still true that many lives will sadly be lost. And yet it is also true that there is a clear way through. Day by day we are strengthening our amazing NHS with 7500 former clinicians now coming back to the service. With the time you buy – by simply staying at home – we are increasing our stocks of equipment. We are accelerating our search for treatments. We are pioneering work on a vaccine. And we are buying millions of testing kits that will enable us to turn the tide on this invisible killer. I want to thank everyone who is working flat out to beat the virus. Everyone from the supermarket staff to the transport workers to the carers to the nurses and doctors on the frontline. But in this fight we can be in no doubt that each and every one of us is directly enlisted. Each and every one of us is now obliged to join together. To halt the spread of this disease. To protect our NHS and to save many many thousands of lives. And I know that as they have in the past so many times. The people of this country will rise to that challenge. And we will come through it stronger than ever. We will beat the coronavirus and we will beat it together. And therefore I urge you at this moment of national emergency to stay at home, protect our NHS and save lives. Thank you.
Sam the Sham wrote: » UK now on lockdown. Time for us to do the same.
Sam the Sham wrote: » UK now on lockdown. Time for us to do the same. Johnson's address tonight:
BoatMad wrote: » The evidence is those that recover from any sort of serious bout they can loose 10-30% lung function permanently
Sam the Sham wrote: » UK now on lockdown. Time for us to do the same. :
thecomedian wrote: » Not really. It’s a half lockdown. They can still go out for essentials, once a day for exercise and to go to work.
Nermal wrote: » Nobody's forcing you to go out. You are free to shutdown by yourself. The rest of us may have a different risk tolerance to you, and can make our own decisions.