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I want a shutdown NOW!

realdanbreen

Not in 1 week 2 weeks whatever, NOW!
While most people are adhering to the health advice you cannot expect the gobshytes like those clowns packing beaches and parks to obey unless they are forced to.
Shutdown NOW.

Anyone that agrees stick your name below.

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ELM327

Agree
Should have happened a month ago

SuperRabbit

Since you never know till 2 weeks later if you have taken enough steps or not, it seems to me it's best to err on the side of caution, right? Because by the time we know whether or not schools / pubs / events cancelled is enough, it will be too late to go back and do more. I hope every company whose employees can work from home is doing the responsible thing and making them work from home or sending them home until that can be set up.

But really we should do a total shut down. If we overshoot the mark we can reopen things in 2 weeks, and it will really force businesses to figure out this work-from-home thing NOW rather than later. I think some will put it off till they have to.

(data from gov.ie)

realdanbreen

B-D-P-- wrote: »

In this proposed shutdown that you have obviously so carefully planned and not just decided carelessly is needed..
Where will ireland get its supply from that we cannot source within our land?

You do understand that a shutdown/lockdown does not apply to essential health/food/emergency services right?

AllGunsBlazing

STB. wrote: »

This is already happening. Shopping centres have responsibilities as well.

Maybe where you live it is but not where I am.

STB.

shesty wrote: »

Marathon. Not a sprint.

Sorry the race is well under way.

The race to not have our health system meltdown like Italy's which was infinitely more better, a few weeks ago, than ours until it was overwhelmed.

We are two weeks away from a meltdown. Two weeks.

Widdensushi wrote: »

37 posts and one name, not up to us to be trying to force these agendas, the people with alot more information should be left to make the right decision without being pressurised

The only people with agendas from day one were the self serving businesses and lobby groups who put public health second.

Widdensushi

37 posts and one name, not up to us to be trying to force these agendas, the people with alot more information should be left to make the right decision without being pressurised

osarusan

The exprts have said that social distancing is working but that further measures (ie lockdown) may be taken when the time is right...is the right time not right now?

Surely an earlier rather than later lockdown is better for suppressing transmission.

If there was a lockdown for 2 weeks, those with the virus will develop symptoms at home and can be treated, along with those they are in lockdown with, but will have passed it on to far fewer people than otherwise.

shesty

Marathon. Not a sprint.

run_Forrest_run

Nermal wrote: »

Nobody's forcing you to go out. You are free to shutdown by yourself. The rest of us may have a different risk tolerance to you, and can make our own decisions.

are you serious?

STB.

chicorytip wrote: »

A complete lockdown will only be effective if there are sufficient police and military personnel available to enforce it which we don't have and, secondly, if the entire population is willing to comply with the restrictions involved. Many of us are unwilling in that regard, clearly.
So, I think it would be an impractical to introduce and too difficult to implement. The Italian situation tells us that.

No it doesn't. It proves that it was too late. The PM advised people to go out as normal, then changed their minds as numbered multiplied, hemmed and hawed about it, then locked it down when people were taking the píss and not taking it seriously.

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

Announce a lockdown and long unruly queues will form outside supermarkets. Even if supermarkets are exempt people will still panic and they will be jammed as a result.

Then watch numbers of infected skyrocket.

This is already happening. Shopping centres have responsibilities as well.

AllGunsBlazing

Announce a lockdown and long unruly queues will form outside supermarkets. Even if supermarkets are exempt people will still panic and they will be jammed as a result.

Then watch numbers of infected skyrocket.

Luimneach2018

Unfortunately too many people care only about their civic rights/liberties and couldn't give a damn about their civic duty/responsibilities.

Ironically these are the very people who will be directly responsible for the inevitable further restrictions.

Woke Hogan wrote: »

This is an attitude that will get people killed.

You can take that further, it is an attitude that has already gotten countless people killed in other countries.

STB.

Lesnar Defender wrote: »

I for one, do not want my civil liberties removed.

"Your" civil liberties come second to public health interests.

uck51js9zml2yt

Lesnar Defender wrote: »

I for one, do not want my civil liberties removed.

Not even if it could save your life?

chicorytip

A complete lockdown will only be effective if there are sufficient police and military personnel available to enforce it which we don't have and, secondly, if the entire population is willing to comply with the restrictions involved. Many of us are unwilling in that regard, clearly.
So, I think it would be an impractical to introduce and too difficult to implement. The Italian situation tells us that.

Guy:Incognito

realdanbreen wrote: »

Not in 1 week 2 weeks whatever, NOW!
While most people are adhering to the health advice you cannot expect the gobshytes like those clowns packing beaches and parks to obey unless they are forced to.
Shutdown NOW.

Anyone that agrees stick your name below.

Sir! Yes , Sir!

I'll get right on it.

is_that_so

realdanbreen wrote: »

As long as it takes to prevent a convoy of army trucks carrying coffins away to be cremated as we saw in Italy.

Italy messed up and didn't kick into action until it was too late. By the time they did the health system was overwhelmed.

STB.

realdanbreen wrote: »

I have great admiration for these people but they also told us 3 weeks ago that there was a low to moderate risk of the virus coming into the country.

Well Dan I am not one of those people.

A long as our borders and airports remain open to civilian traffic, its going to be groundhog day over and over.

The Chinese are now warning of re-infection and a second wave of the pandemic as a result of cases importing back into China.

I am also a believer in the good work of people self isolating, working from home and social distancing being undone by those who don't follow the advice and external factors that we need to control immediately. The UK have made a dogs dinner of it, largely at the hands of Dominic Cummings. We dont need to import those problems. The numbers are going to shoot up as a result of community transmissions and/or Cheltenham.

And I agree, we need to learn from the mistakes of Italy. It is human nature that some people will refuse to play ball and not exclusive to Italians. Our Health system could not sustain a serious exponential increase over the next few weeks.

B-D-P--

In this proposed shutdown that you have obviously so carefully planned and not just decided carelessly is needed..
Where will ireland get its supply from that we cannot source within our land?

CIARAN_BOYLE

realdanbreen wrote: »

I have great admiration for these people but they also told us 3 weeks ago that there was a low to moderate risk of the virus coming into the country.

Quote please.

My recollection is that there was a low to moderate risk of catching it at the moment.

thecomedian

realdanbreen wrote: »

Do you think if the people in Italy who have lost and are losing loved ones could turn back the clock and had a shutdown they would?

So how long a shutdown?
3 weeks is not enough.
Do you want everything shutdown?

Muahahaha

Germanys solution seems like a good one, no more than two people out in public together at a time. Would certainly curtail the large groups out and about. Wouldnt have a problem with a lockdown myself, its a far better alternative than seeing Italys figures come to our shores in a few weeks.

Salary Negotiator

realdanbreen wrote: »

Do you think if the people in Italy who have lost and are losing loved ones could turn back the clock and had a shutdown they would?

I’m sure they would and like I edited to a previous comment I have no issues with a lockdown when it is commenced.

I just have more faith that those in charge will implement it when needed.

begbysback

realdanbreen wrote: »

Not in 1 week 2 weeks whatever, NOW!
While most people are adhering to the health advice you cannot expect the gobshytes like those clowns packing beaches and parks to obey unless they are forced to.
Shutdown NOW.

Anyone that agrees stick your name below.

Disagree, it’s not necessary at this moment, you are also suggesting an immediate lockdown without understanding the implications.

All the scaremongering clips of people not social distancing stems from the psychology of siblings telling on each other, they are a small percentage of the population

realdanbreen

STB. wrote: »

I'm sure he is basing it on the Italian experience, who were we are now 3 weeks ago. Except they have jumped from 1,000 to nearly 60,000 in those 3 weeks.

Dr Holohan. Tony Holohan. There are no experts.

I have great admiration for these people but they also told us 3 weeks ago that there was a low to moderate risk of the virus coming into the country.

Salary Negotiator

STB. wrote: »

Dr Holohan. Tony Holohan. There are no experts.

Thanks, I thought my spelling looked wrong.

Irishphotodesk

Woke Hogan wrote: »

This is an attitude that will get people killed.

That is the attitude of someone who may need to stay positive, it's the attitude I tell myself that I need, as someone who is regarded as front line and need to go outside (while secretly bricking it) ... Remember the taoiseach recently said... Not all hero's wear capes.

Yes there are idiots walking around without a care in the world, but the responsibility lies with us all, if you feel you are better off socially isolated, then do that, don't criticise others that need to go out (in some cases to prevent deaths)

DeVore

Please everyone, Stay Civil or you will be asked to leave.

realdanbreen

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

What data are you basing this request on?

I’m sure Dr. Hoolahan will let us know when the experts think a lockdown should start.

Do you think if the people in Italy who have lost and are losing loved ones could turn back the clock and had a shutdown they would?

STB.

Salary Negotiator wrote: »

What data are you basing this request on?

I’m sure Dr. Hoolahan will let us know when the experts think a lockdown should start.

I'm sure he is basing it on the Italian experience, who were at where we are now 3 weeks ago. Except they have jumped from 1,000 to nearly 60,000 in those 3 weeks.

Dr Holohan. Tony Holohan. There are no experts.