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Just One - Game Thread

Necro

Hello all, and welcome to the debut of JUST ONE on Boards

A recap of the rules for you all first:

To play the game, everyone on each team but one person is given a list of secret words for that round. Then everyone submits a 1-word clue to those secret words. The game mod removes any duplicate words and posts the unique clues and the one person from each team then guesses the secret words.

For each word the guesser gets correct, their team gets a point; if wrong, they lose a point. They can also pass on guessing a word, and the team's score is unchanged.

Example:
Secret Word: Michael Jackson

Clues submitted:
Thriller
Moonwalk
Superstar
Dance
Moonwalk
Thriller

Thriller and Moonwalk were duplicated so would be thrown out and the guesser would be given the clues:

Superstar, Dance

They would then either guess Michael Jackson (1 point) or Taylor Swift (-1 point) or pass (0 points).

Here are some additional rules:

What clues are allowable

The clue must be composed of a single word.

Note: a digit, a number, an acronym, an onomatopoeia, or a special character are all considered to be words.

Example: 007 is allowed to help someone guess Bond, just like Riiiiiinnng or SMS are allowed to help someone guess Telephone, and $ is allowed to help someone guess America.

If an acronym is used, the secret word may not be part of it. For example, AT&T would not be a valid clue if the secret word was telephone.

Also, hyphenated words are totally fine, as long as their existence predates this thread (see more below). "yellow-haired" and "tow-headed" would be valid clues for blonde. "not-brunette" would not be a valid clue for blonde.

What clues are not allowable

A clue may not be identical or similar to any of the other secret words. For example, if "fox" and "fire" are two of the secret words, then fire is not an allowable clue for fox, and fox is not an allowable clue for fire.

In addition:

1) The clue may not be the secret word written in a different language. Calamari is not a valid clue for "squid."

2) The clue may not be from the same family as, or have the same root as, the secret word. Prince is not a valid clue for "princess." Washroom is not a valid clue for "bathroom."

3) The clue must be a pre-existing word. That is, you cannot make up words for the sake of the clue, but words that are not in the dictionary but exist independently of this thread are valid clues. Example - yumyumjuice would not be a valid clue for "alcohol."

4) The clue may not contain a significant component of the secret word, even if the root is different. Grass is not a valid clue for "grasshopper," and grasshopper is not a valid clue for "grass."

5) The clue must refer to the word itself, and not a homonym of the word or a similar-looking word. If the word is "sun," then daughter is not a valid clue. If the word is "mind," then Kaling is not a valid clue.

6) The clue must relate to the meaning of the word rather than, for example, how the word sounds or how many letters it has. Leather is not a valid clue for "weather," and three is not a valid clue for "egg."

When will clues be duplicated:

Clues that are too similar to other clues will be duped at the moderator's discretion. I will try to be consistent and apply the duplication rules in good faith. I may solicit advice on what I perceive to be close calls. I may make mistakes, but I will try not to, and I ask for your forgiveness if I do.

Fundamentally, when words appear similar, I am looking to see whether cluegivers have distinct concepts in mind that do not share the same root. For example, if the secret word is "lawn," then grass and grasshopper would be valid clues that are not duplicates, because their root is different (grass and hopper, respectively) and they are conveying different things. Likewise, Superman and Supergirl would not be duped, because the roots are different (man and girl) and they are referring to different things. However, bite and bitten as clues for "eat" would be considered duplicates of each other, as would highway and freeway as clues for "road." Again, there will be judgment calls, but I will do my best to be consistent.

My next post will outline how the game will work.

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Necro

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

All the rest should go in now, I presume Necro was allowing the first by itself while we all got used to the game

So far Necro, great game! Despite our team getting savaged in the first round

That's it exactly, once I update the spreadsheet this eve I think I'm only waiting on 4 people for all clues anyways, possibly less.

I'm glad it's being well received so far, pace is probably a bit slow but I think that's fair given the number of players and letting them have a chance to submit clues/guesses.

Electric Nitwit

Necro wrote: »

...pace is probably a bit slow but I think that's fair given the number of players and letting them have a chance to submit clues/guesses.

To be fair to LadySkunk, she's got a lot to consider - The Oxford English Dictionary contains entries for 171,476 words :pac:

Green&Red

Clarabel wrote: »

Wait you weren't supposed to submit all the clues together?

Mine are all in.

As a four you don't need to worry about this, we are such unique beings that there is no fear of duplicates

Tauriel

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

To be fair to LadySkunk, she's got a lot to consider - The Oxford English Dictionary contains entries for 171,476 words :pac:

The suspense is killing me

tusk

mustang shelly wrote: »

The suspense is killing me :D

get used to it,...................

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Trigger wrote: »

Exactly, so the cluers really need to stay away from the easy enough clues as more than likely someone else will be thinking the same.

It makes giving the clues a game in itself and then hoping that the guesser has enough knowledge to put the obscure clues together.

I actually live this game :pac: wouldnt wish guessing in anyone though

Really? I think its great fun being the guesser. Having to decipher the clues is a blast, and giving the guess in thread instead of via PM with everyone watching is a bit of a rush too. If we play again, it would be nice to give cluer a try, but think guesser is much more my style.

FYI, Homer's Trigger-Happy Rebels and Mollywood Stars, if I end up in the same position as LadySkunk at any stage with no clues to work with, my intention is to take a stab in the dark and pluck an answer out of thin air. Go big or go home, right?

Electric Nitwit

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Once LadySkunk miraculously pulls the answer from thin air* we can discuss what went wrong. Probably good to do that before we all submit the rest of the clues, in case we get a feel for the way we're each playing. I'm going to hazard a guess that I matched Shelly, and Deja and Duffers matched

*or passes, of course. But I'm aware of what I said about that :pac:

Shall we take it as read that Skunkers is passing?

I'd quite like to know who clued what before submitting my remaining clues, but I'm aware I may be holding everything up

Tauriel

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Shall we take it as read that Skunkers is passing?

I'd quite like to know who clued what before submitting my remaining clues, but I'm aware I may be holding everything up

Has anyone PM'd her?

quickbeam

To avoid the situation Skunk finds herself in, can teams decide among themselves that one will pick an obvious clue and three will pick obscure ones? Or is that cheating?

Of course what might be obscure to some might be obvious to others and vice versa. So no guarantee that there won't still be duplicates. But maybe it's a strategy that could work.

Kolido

quickbeam wrote: »

To avoid the situation Skunk finds herself in, can teams decide among themselves that one will pick an obvious clue and three will pick obscure ones? Or is that cheating?

Of course what might be obscure to some might be obvious to others and vice versa. So no guarantee that there won't still be duplicates. But maybe it's a strategy that could work.

Maybe something mods could look at in future games. I have the idea of doing a rotating guesser if I ever run one of these.

LadySkunk

Pass guys obvs :pac:

Electric Nitwit

quickbeam wrote: »

To avoid the situation Skunk finds herself in, can teams decide among themselves that one will pick an obvious clue and three will pick obscure ones? Or is that cheating?

Of course what might be obscure to some might be obvious to others and vice versa. So no guarantee that there won't still be duplicates. But maybe it's a strategy that could work.

I wondered that in advance but decided discussing tactics like that would be against the spirit of the game. As crap as it in some ways that this has happened to us, it is funny and does show what the game can do

If you partially planned an approach everyone would likely get four clues and easily guess

sKeith

quickbeam wrote: »

To avoid the situation Skunk finds herself in, can teams decide among themselves that one will pick an obvious clue and three will pick obscure ones? Or is that cheating?

Of course what might be obscure to some might be obvious to others and vice versa. So no guarantee that there won't still be duplicates. But maybe it's a strategy that could work.

or for a team of 4, maybe divide the alphabet into 4 and only clue from your section of alphabet, a-f g-n m-r s-z
Then you could be assured of no duplicates.

Electric Nitwit

LadySkunk wrote: »

Pass guys obvs :pac:

Sorry Skunk!

I went for MUSTARD

Kolido

Tactical planning on what clues to give would take away one of the biggest elements of the game imo. On a team of 5, the vast majority of words would be guessed correctly.

duffman13

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Sorry Skunk!

I went for MUSTARD

Me too

Necro

LadySkunk wrote:

Pass guys obvs

Pass accepted.

The correct Answer was: hot dog

I hope to have the second round up and running by 6 this evening

Tauriel

My clue was bun.

Electric Nitwit

duffman13 wrote: »

Me too

I was going to go for WIENER but it fell foul of the rules. Shame, with that and mustard LadySkunk would have got it. I should have just changed to sausage!

Tauriel

I should of went with pet or canine. Hindsight is a great thing.

Electric Nitwit

mustang shelly wrote: »

I should of went with pet or canine. Hindsight is a great thing.

True!

My actual answer was:

OK, let's go!

I have two possible clues, and a flow diagram to pick one! Except I can't draw a flow diagram

Q1: am I allowed to ask you how you would treat a word regarding duplicates?

If "No", my clue is MUSTARD

If "Yes" then...

Q2: would "WIENER" be considered a duplicate with "SAUSAGE" or "FRANKFURTER"?

If "No", my clue is WIENER
If "Yes", my clue is MUSTARD

Hopefully that's clear

Trigger

I'm just going to leave this here

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Also - how about team policy of never passing? If in doubt, guess! Death or glory!

Necro

Scores after Round 1:

Team Name Round 1
The A Team 0
Homer's Trigger-Happy Rebels and Mollywood Stars 1
Four Men and a Lady -1
I'm a Four, Baby 1

Electric Nitwit

Trigger wrote: »

I'm just going to leave this here

I know, I'm as disappointed as you Trig

[Deleted User]

Oh no I forgot I get minus for guessing wrong. Why didn't I pass? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Necro

Ok let's get Round 2 up and running:

The A Team

Guesser: LadySkunk

Valid clues: sandwiches, Underground

Homer's Trigger-Happy Rebels and Mollywood Stars

Guesser: LeVar

Valid clues: jaw, Key, canal, Unfasten

Four Men and a Lady

Guesser: BuileBeag

Valid clues: ply, paper, bidet, stockpile

I'm a Four, Baby

Guesser: Green&Red

Valid Clues: border, family, memories, Hang

Electric Nitwit

Necro wrote: »

Ok let's get Round 2 up and running:

The A Team

Guesser: LadySkunk

Valid clues: sandwiches, Underground

Another duplicate from me, sorry guys!

Tauriel

I'm fairly certain I know what Team 3 is but I'm still stumped on 2 and 4.

quickbeam

2 is the only one I'd struggle with so far. I think I have the others.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Necro wrote: »

Homer's Trigger-Happy Rebels and Mollywood Stars

Guesser: LeVar

Valid clues: jaw, Key, canal, Unfasten

Hmmm, I'm stuck between 2 words. I'll explain my reasoning for both and then give my answer in bold at the end.

The first word that came to me was Lock, because Key's lock things, you can get lockjaw, I think the gates on canals are called Locks, and the another word for fasten would be lock, but unfasten has been given as a clue as parts of the word I'm guessing can't be in the clues and someone has potentially cleverly thrown un in there, in case I was debating between Lock and Unlock based on the other clues.

The second word that I think could fit these clues is Teeth, because there are teeth in your jaw, keys have teeth, it could be root canal rather than a water canal, and this one is a bit of a stretch but if you were to unfasten/fasten or unzip/zip something you are opening or closing the teeth on your clothes/bag whatever.

Granted it could be neither of these words, but definitely the two that sprung to mind. I think the second one is a bit overly complicated, so I'm hoping I'm right in my guess that the word I'm looking for is...

Lock