[Deleted User] wrote: » Calling this rape makes a mockery of actual RAPE..
sugarman wrote: » How do you know the gender of anonymous posters?
Mezcita wrote: » Jesus wept. The girl later tried to kill herself over the whole thing. So the suggestion that it's annoying is f.ucking stupid. Nearly as stupid as suggesting that she would be happy for it to be made into a movie. If this happened to your mother or sister you would be singing a very different tune.
Deleted User wrote: » Calling this rape makes a mockery of actual RAPE..
cloudatlas wrote: » Assuming you’re a guy. If you were one of the victims of Sinaga the Manchester rapist would you seek justice, I mean you were just passed out when you were anally raped so not traumatised just woke disorientated in a kindly mans flat feeling sore. So em just asking an innocent question here you understand but if you didn’t experience psychological problems after what’s the harm right? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/world/europe/reynhard-sinaga-rape.amp.html
KiKi III wrote: » Again, not a huge fan of the term “rape culture” but when men dismiss a rape in this offhand way because it doesn’t fit what rape means in their head, that suggests a problem with the lense through which our culture views rape. You’re not defending “real victims” CQD, and I’m disappointed to see you express this view.
greencap wrote: » Ok then there's no difference. Being in an active relationship with someone. And being a guest in someone's home for the night are the same thing. No really. They are.
KiKi III wrote: » I am not a fan of the term “rape culture” - I don’t think it’s generally a helpful way of describing how rape is understood in society. But when a man has admitted to rape in detail in an email to his victim and then pleaded guilty in court to the same crime, but men here are still somehow trying to claim he’s probably isn’t, I can’t think of a better term to describe it.
KiKi III wrote: » But when a man has admitted to rape in detail in an email to his victim and then pleaded guilty in court to the same crime, but men here are still somehow trying to claim he’s probably isn’t, I can’t think of a better term to describe it.
KiKi III wrote: » How hard is it to understand that any time you put your dick in someone you need their consent? This applies regardless of whether they’re a gf/ wife/ houseguest/ bdsm playmate or whatever you’re having yourself.
Deleted User wrote: » Like, really.. rape is like really the worst kind of crime..to equate it with this, in a presumably loving relationship, really I think it kind of looks like some feminist publicity stunt..get the likes of Louise o Neill fired up.. yeah, the whole consent thing has become such a big deal, but like, what you are saying is that this is of the same magnitude as a violent sexual assault, from which many women never recover..I think you're doing a lot of people a disservice..
[Deleted User] wrote: » Like, really.. rape is like really the worst kind of crime..to equate it with this, in a presumably loving relationship, really I think it kind of looks like some feminist publicity stunt..get the likes of Louise o Neill fired up.. yeah, the whole consent thing has become such a big deal, but like, what you are saying is that this is of the same magnitude as a violent sexual assault, from which many women never recover..I think you're doing a lot of people a disservice..
retro:electro wrote: » This thread can’t be real. He literally admitted to raping her! Some posters on this thread: “na that be right” But he admitted it. “Sometimes people admit to things they didn’t do. Is there any proof?” Yeah, he admitted it. “Wow its just so mysterious”
KiKi III wrote: » Listen, stealing €1,000 and stealing €10m are both stealing even if one is a lot more serious than the other. Punching someone once and punching someone 10 times are both assault even if one is more serious than the other. And raping someone as they sleep and raping someone violently in an alley are both rape even if one is more serious than the other. Attitudes like yours are the reason marital rape wasn’t even considered a crime until a few decades ago.
Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: » So nobody has ever admitted to a crime they didn't commit? Funny that considering some of the posters on here were all over Making a Murderer and how Brendan Dassey's confession shouldn't be taken as an admission of guilt. But that's beside the point. How can someone be so traumatised by something they slept through.
Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: » So you agree that there a different degrees of rape, similar to murder, manslaughter etc?
Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: » So nobody has ever admitted to a crime they didn't commit? Funny that considering some of the posters on here were all over Making a Murderer and how Brendan Dassey's confession shouldn't be taken as an admission of guilt.
retro:electro wrote: » Brendan Dassey was an intellectually stunted teenager who was coerced into making a statement without a lawyer. This guy, as far as I’m aware, is firing on all cylinders and admitted to rape in an email of his own free will. He also pleaded guilty. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to force but it’s a weak one. Why are you tying yourself in knots trying to defend someone who didn’t even defend themselves? Kind of sick.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Look.. we'll have to agree to differ.. but I would argue that this is another area where the whole PC feminist thing is being pushed a bit too far.. and that's fine, but I think that at some stage there will be a reaction where people go "dya know what, **** 'em.." and the laws of human decency won't be there when they reject the PC dogma..I think it's kind of what we've seen happen with Trump and brexit.. the same thing could (may be already) happen in this area.. it's just..I dunno.. like..I hope to God I'm wrong, but the relationship between the sexes is probably not something that you want breaking down, and the likes of this moves things further in that direction I think..I'm probably not expressing this coherently,..
Kenley Rancid Stretcher wrote: » The whole thing seems utterly bizarre, am I the only one who thinks this story seems a little odd?
Raconteuse wrote: » Ah Jesus, the verdict is due to pc feminism?
cloudatlas wrote: » Both cases involve people who had no knowledge of the rape until they were told by police/ by the boyfriend so they didn’t suffer trauma until they were told and that negates the crime. Did she strike you as performative? Maybe he just wanted attention, to be highly regarded as a rapist in both Ireland and his native country? We have learned in previous threads that victims want attention, they want people to imagine them being raped by a stranger and to go through a lengthy intrusive trial where they are asked about their sex life for the attention so that could equally be extended to a rapist who wants attention and accolades for the rape, to be caught willingly and reap the obvious benefits of the high profile celebrity that will bring.
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