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General Election TV debates

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Deserving of its own thread I feel, especially with FF and FG being neck and neck.
Michael Martin and Leo Varadkar about to debate now on TV3, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Likely to be a score draw but if Varadkar wobbles at any point it could send the campaign south pretty quick. TV3 reporting that they have a genuine hatred for each other so they'll have to keep emotions in check.

RTE will also be holding a Martin-Varadkar debate as well as one for all the party leaders together.

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McMurphy

Ardent wrote: »

Leo with a home run with the John Delaney analogy LOL

Dunno about a homerun to be fair, Delaney went on a slice of his bender whilst under Leo's tenure as sports minister.

The Rape of Lucretia

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Cracks appearing all theough the SF manifesto.

So many holes in it. Its as if it were strafed with an AK47.

Negative_G

Jizique wrote: »

Wasn’t one of Haugheys kids running a helicopter company - he could do it for 500m

Bargain.

Mervyn Skidmore

Ireland could do with a Monster Raving Loony Party (a different one from the National Party).

Vivienne23

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

Yes, why not? Work for your money - especially the youth - some of them came out of school straight into the welfare office - they have no skills, no experience, some are illiterate, can’t dress for work etc. Why not have them join the county councils as trainees, learning gardening, maintenance jobs, office work, etc. Social welfare is supposed to help you until you get a job - not be a career move. Don’t make it attractive to be on the dole. And let our indigenous brethren join in as well - everyone should work.

Agreed nobody should get anything for doing nothing , except the disabled , elderly , sick

um7y1h83ge06nx

I was predicting the rise of SF for a few years now as I draw many similarities between Irish and Spanish politics.

The rise of the socialists there in the 30s is similar to the rise of SF. The socialists looked to redistribute wealth, particularly farmers land.

That in turn led to a reaction by many Spanish that led to Falange Espanola and the Carlists linking up with the Spanish army of Africa and Franco.

So SF may get into power but they may face a backlash

Atlantic Dawn

When you hit 65 and have to retire you will then be means tested for the dole after 9 months on it and if you have provided savings for your future will get no dole after this time and next payment will be pension years later.

Slattsy

suicide_circus wrote: »

??? you even watching?

They see and hear what they want to see and hear.

She's been shown up tonight. Great to see.

[Deleted User]

Im sure it's been said before but I'd make a donation for another debate chaired by Vinny b

[Deleted User]

gmisk wrote: »

I don't disagree with paying to see a gp, northern Ireland is a joke doctors surgery awash with people (speaking from experience), don't pay for doctors visit and don't pay for a prescription.

I used to live in a country with excellent health care. Either a gp visit or an xray came with a nominal fee of 5 quid. Probably equivalent of 15 quid here. Enough to make you think twice for juniors sniffles but not a barrier for anyone who was sick.

They need to do that for everyone.

Mr.Crinklewood

Venom wrote: »

No surprise when a magic money tree is the basis for their entire manifesto.

Northern Bank bank notes surely ?

mzungu

On demographics Mary Lou waffling and avoiding giving detail.

deisedevil

CPTM wrote: »

Will their supporters see them though. Lovely world they live in, just not the real world.

Ah the real world. Where bankers, property developers and corrupt politicians can live without fear of being held accountable for the damage they have done and continue to do to this country.

Phoebas

Answer the demographics question

TheRiverman

I will be voting for an Independent, nothing here to convince me otherwise.Mary Lou a huge disappointment.

Naggdefy

The economy.. neither FG or FF covered themselves in glory in the last 40 years. FF 2002-2010 and FG 1982-1987.

And God knows what SF would do.

gyppo

L1011 wrote: »

In countries where the system actually works, yes. It doesn't here.

But it'll cost a hell of a lot less with vastly better outcomes to fix that - either by making the Air Corps attractive enough for pilots not to leave or getting someone like CHC to do it - than to try make the regional/rural A&Es function to an acceptable level.

I really dont think it would work. You thin a helicopter pilot/crew will land in unknown terrain in a rural area at nighttime without clear visibility of any obstacles?

I see the medivac helicopter working from Athlone every day, and its an absolutely superb service, but not at night....

Underground

Housing crisis - encouraging people to procreate.

And SF are apparently top of the polls??

JohnnyFlash

nerd69 wrote: »

Im sure it's been said before but I'd make a donation for another debate chaired by Vinny b

People are nostalgic about Vincent. He was a terrible presenter who mistook bluster and outrage for political debate.

BQQ

MM is a pure waffler.
He's like a middle manager spouting the latest buzzwords.

Scary that we're on the brink of returning the people that drove the country into the gutter back to power.

Itssoeasy

So no riding then.

ThunbergsAreGo

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Does Mary Lou ever answer a direct question without saying let me point out first.....

Straight out of Gerrys book.

She's has been talking to alot of people, people who have no facts or figures to back up anything

cannotlogin

Slightly off topic but why is unemployment benefit never reduced in times of near full employment?

Nobody who is in receipt if unemployment benefit should struggle to find a job when that is the economic situation. Those who can't work should be on disability instead.

It wasnt me123

Vivienne23 wrote: »

Agreed nobody should get anything for doing nothing , except the disabled , elderly , sick

There will always be those that can’t work for lots of reasons health, etc but that would be aa small minority of the population - everyone else get off your hole and contribute. No free anything. You want to see aa dr and have a medical card, pay 10 euro. You want a prescription, pay 2 euro per prescription. Nothing for free.

super_furry

'People are living longer'

Finally a problem Mary Lou has an answer for. Time to make some phone calls and get the band back together.

Mervyn Skidmore

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

People are nostalgic about Vincent. He was a terrible presenter who mistook bluster and outrage for political debate.

He was entertaining though and that's all a lot of people are interested in.

[Deleted User]

Sinn Fein website- you can "learn more" about all of their manifesto on the various tabs..... except for.....the..

"Cost of Delivering our Proposals" tab

https://www.sinnfein.ie

The Rape of Lucretia

TheRiverman wrote: »

I will be voting for an Independent, nothing here to convince me otherwise.Mary Lou a huge disappointment.

That really shooting yourself in the foot. It just puts a non-event taking up a seat, reducing the options to form a stable competent government. I would advise spoliing your vote is a less harmful venting of your frustration.

tabby aspreme

Vivienne23 wrote: »

That’s no harm tho is it ?

Lots of undesirables around my area using hunting as a guise , I understand foxes need to be culled but there might be better ways than running them ragged by a pack of dogs

The hunters Mary Lou wants to stop are the daytime Hunter's, not the crew hunting at night

realdanbreen

griffinlee wrote: »

As someone who doesn't have any connection or affinity to any party.

I like Mary lou but lacks depth in her policies the most
Whilst I'm not his greatest fan, Lv seems the most detailed in this debate
Micheal Martin looks lost at sea

Just my opinion as an independent observer

MLM is around a good few years now. Has she ever said or done anything memorable?