deisedevil wrote: » Mary Lou running away with the poll here on boards, also on the journal and just now the panelists on the after show on RTE all went with Mary Lou. I thought she was caught out a few times and poor when it came to discussing the financial side of things, but it's clear that most people feel she came out on top.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Has a more odious, power hungry sleeveen 'politician' as Michael Martin emerged in this country in the last 20 years? He would sell his granny for the job. No humility for his part in the crash and bankrupting of the country, no responsibility for the current mess in Health, Housing etc He walked into haymakers last night on the above yet the equally desparate and sleeveen Indo has him as the winner?? I will say it now, I'd prefer Leo to remain as Taoiseach than that man get the job. My favourite outcome would be an internal FF revolt on coalition with SF.
Fann Linn wrote: » Howlin edging towards SF according to reports on twitter.
SafeSurfer wrote: » joint opposition
SafeSurfer wrote: » At least he admits to being a member of Fianna Fáil,
FrancieBrady wrote: » Not the FF that busted the country. It is like he wasn't there.
SafeSurfer wrote: » Just like Gerry “Paul Daniel” Adams.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Gerry denied he was in SF?
SafeSurfer wrote: » Denied he was ever a member of the IRA.
You criticise Michael Martin for being power hungry but not a whimper of the same charge from you for Sinn Fein. A party which has jettisoned all its core principles from abstentionism to “Brits Out”.
You are deluded if you think there is a large section of Fianna Fáil eager for coalition with Sinn Fein.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » FF and SF will be in coalition after the election despite what Mehole has said on the matter. SF will back down on the SCC issue as well. There will be no one more disappointed in the compromises SF will make both in negotiations, and once faced with the reality of budgets, unions, and legislation when in Government than their hardcore supporters.
Fr_Dougal wrote: » Not a chance. FF will not go into coalition with SF.
JohnnyFlash wrote: » If the numbers stack up then it will happen. They will huff and they’ll puff, and they’ll pretend to be trying to put together some sort of grand coalition involving everyone except SF and FG. And there will be lots of posturing and hot air. Might go on for a few weeks. Insults will be traded and Hugh O’Connell will explode with excitement. And then Mehole and Mary will hold ‘private talks’ and a decision to go into coalition will happen for the ‘good of the country’.
SafeSurfer wrote: » Denied he was ever a member of the IRA. You criticise Michael Martin for being power hungry but not a whimper of the same charge from you for Sinn Fein. A party which has jettisoned all its core principles from abstentionism to “Brits Out”. You are deluded if you think there is a large section of Fianna Fáil eager for coalition with Sinn Fein.
easypazz wrote: » Its not their choice. The people will dictate and they must follow. They ghosted with FG for months after the last election then went to bed with them. If I was FG and came second I would declare that they are beaten and don't want to be in government and its time for new people in charge. Sit back, and open the popcorn.
FrancieBrady wrote: » So what? Every politician wants power, nothing wrong with that. To be as power hungry as MM is obscene. At least Leo will defend decisions FG took in running the country. Martin denies what his own history is and what FF did to the country. We'll wait and see on that one.
Idbatterim wrote: » In a way. It’s so attractive! I’ll say this again , fg are ****. But there are two parties there , one proven spoofers and useless, they won’t tackle any key issues that would resolve these crisis. I dont know now , maybe you’re right , I’d love to see it ! Havingvall the answers is easy , when your solutions, aren’t being tested. Imagine these two parties after all their waffle for years , never mind not fixing issues , but bring it all crashing down Again ! Those parties will ditch all transport proposals for Dublin though , so while the comedy aspect of it is intriguing, I’d prefer fg and greens to get in. Once Dublin metro , bus connects and m20 have started. Ideally dart underground. Let the **** explode again, I’ll sit back with the popcorn !
easypazz wrote: » I'd love to see Michael "comeback king" Martin get the rug swept under him when Sinn Fein are his chosen bride.
SafeSurfer wrote: » The people don’t dictate who party’s decide to coalesce with. Both main parties have committed to non coalition with Sinn Fein. People know in advance what they are voting for and what they are voting against.
Idbatterim wrote: » In a way. It’s so attractive! I’ll say this again , fg are ****. But there are two parties there , one proven spoofers and useless, they won’t tackle any key issues that would resolve these crisis. I dont know now , maybe you’re right , I’d love to see it ! Havingvall the answers is easy , when your solutions, aren’t being tested. Imagine these two parties after all their waffle for years , never mind not fixing issues , but bring it all crashing down Again !Those parties will ditch all transport proposals for Dublin though , so while the comedy aspect of it is intriguing, I’d prefer fg and greens to get in. Once Dublin metro , bus connects and m20 have started. Ideally dart underground. Let the **** explode again, I’ll sit back with the popcorn !
shenanagans wrote: » FF will never partner with SF with MM as leader.
easypazz wrote: » FF have also ruled out coalition with FG. Their mantra is people want a change of government. FG are perfectly entitled to accept defeat and go into opposition and not negotiate with anybody about forming a government. Its FF that are saying the people want a new government, that they keep hearing it on the doorsteps, that rules out FG, so SF may be the ones the people choose to join FF in this new government.
SafeSurfer wrote: » No. What obscene power hunger looks like is using violence to advance your political goals. To murder your political opponents. That’s what is obscene. Michael Martin never had a private army to blow up civilians to as a political tool.
easypazz wrote: » Exactly, so "comeback king" will have to resign if that is the "new Government" the people keep telling him they want on the doorsteps.
SafeSurfer wrote: » Every democrat should be worried when elected politicians swear to follow the instructions of unelected cult leaders.
