MayoAreMagic wrote: » If they can manage that, off an average population, why would you change their setup? You seem to simply want to maintain dublin at all costs. Why?
Hawkeye9212 wrote: » Irish people are too parochial for it to be successful.
Dots1982 wrote: » Well I guess we’ll see about that.
Hawkeye9212 wrote: » See about what? Splitting Dublin and merging will never happen.
Dots1982 wrote: » Ok, must get the lotto numbers off ye.
Hawkeye9212 wrote: » Do. You have a better chance of winning the Lottothan seeing Roscommon, Sligo, and Leitrim merged.
Dots1982 wrote: » Certainly do if I get my numbers off you my prognosticating friend.
Hawkeye9212 wrote: » That's what I just said.
Dots1982 wrote: » Brandon Stark and his three eyed raven has nothing on you.
dunnerc wrote: » Again pure hogwash
Dots1982 wrote: » Answer to your first question is because Kerry likely can’t beat the amalgamations they’ll face. Second question; I don’t understand. I’m saying split them but Maybe give them 5 years so Dublin South have a stadium to play in. That’s only fair, that a team can have a home stadium. Even if your own warped anti Dublin view sees it as acceptable they play in a stadium outside their own district.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » You like to get value for money out of one liners anyway. Now if you could just come up with some of your own...
Hawkeye9212 wrote: » Who's that?
The Lost Sheep wrote: » im not from Dublin so not arguing for them not to be split as a supporter of Dublin. Dublin not entering the leinster championship is a no go. I dont think Dublin should be split and if they continue to win all round it may drive gaa to put a far better competition format than what exists right now as it isnt working and that's not simply because of Dublin but lot of other reasons as well.
blanch152 wrote: » Any points you make have been well and truly countered many times, but it is a bit rich listening to a Mayo supporter criticising any other well-organised county, given the mess that they are in. The message to other counties from Dublin should be to get your own house in order, and Mayo are in more need of that than anyone else. They splurge over half their income on a vain attempt to get their senior team winning titles, when they would be better off coming up with any kind of a plan to boost the under-age scene, perhaps then they could play a tune at half-time in a county match.
blanch152 wrote: » Mayo raise vast amounts of money from their supporters but fritter it away and refuse to be accountable for the money raised, I don't need to go over all those details, they are well-known. Dublin get more money for games development coaches, because they have more juveniles playing the game. Simple as. If we gave Leitrim the same money as Dublin, every U-14 player in Leitrim could have a personal coach.
gaffer91 wrote: » You realise much of the arguments you are making there are identical or along the same path of what I and others are arguing? There is an implicit recognition within your argument that Dublin are advantaged because most of the things you suggest changing are currently skewed to favour Dublin. It should be 100% of sponsorship pooled. And funding will have to factor in long term averages- for instance Dublin will have be relatively underfunded for decades to make up for the overfunding in recent years. And of course, they are such a unique statistical outlier in terms of funding that they would have to be split on these grounds alone. Your fairly reasonable suggestions would be too little, too late by this stage unfortunately I suspect however. The residual impacts of Dublin's financial doping will be felt for years to come now and so the single best solution would be a four way split of the county.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » So your idea is for everyone else to join up to match dublin? So we would have about 4-5 teams in the all ireland. You would basically suggest anything to keep dublin together at this stage. Kerry is the yardstick, clearly. We should aim to set the thing up to recreate groups of that size. That is the way to go. The more we can recreate the more top teams we can have. Any clown can see that that is a better option than having 4 or 5 teams like dublin or god knows how many teams at the level of leitrim. You know it too, but you dont want to admit it, because your interest begins and ends at dublin keeping their unfair position. If the sport is ruined over the head of it, you are happy to accept that. You know splitting dublin might have another advantage. It might get rid of people with the above attitude, because they are only a burden on the game.
tritium wrote: » What a surprise! You solution leaves Kerry and Mayo untouched I don’t think anyone on here saw that coming :pac: For the good of the game right?
Dots1982 wrote: » Flip side of that coin is the only amalgamations I’ve seen dubs propose are ones that wouldn’t threaten Dublin. Even Roscommon are too good to be merged apparently.
tritium wrote: » Well I’m a dub and I proposed mayo and Galway merging to mayoismagic. Not sure how adding the talent in Galway to a mayo team that have taken the dubs close on many occasions wouldn’t create a team that would have a serious shot at the AI, if anything it would be a serious new force in the game
Dots1982 wrote: » Id agree and apologies I must have missed your post. It’s certainly not an opinion in abundance here to merge together strong counties.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » To what end? Making 3 teams that match dublin? Straight semi final and final so. Great development for the gaa....
MayoAreMagic wrote: » To what end?
decky1 wrote: » Heard on the radio that 'Old Moore's Almanac' stated that Dublin will not win all Ireland this year. Hope their right.
dunnerc wrote: » Better than splitting Dublin , to help 3/4 teams to match them , Great development for the GAA....
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Absolute hogwash
Dots1982 wrote: » Ireland is far too small a country to have 33 teams playing elite Gaelic Football. There are too many average footballers playing for the division 3 and 4 counties and those counties add almost nothing to the all ireland championship. Elite Gaelic football needs about 10-12 teams playing in a league format With the truly best players playing against each other on a reasonably equal footing. The AFL is in a far bigger country and has only 18 teams. The county format has served its purpose over 100+ years. Kerry ran away with it, now Dublin are virtually unbeatable. Cavan, Down, the other Ulster counties , Meath, Galway, Cork had their eras. It’s been done and it’s time to move on to a competition model that is actually fair and exciting.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Its too big to have 4 though... Also, the geographic setup must be considered. You cant have cork and kerry or galway and mayo. The area is too large for one team to operate sufficiently. Every single angle has bee tried at this stage. Splitting dublin cannot be bested, simply because it is the best option. Yhe coubtry could easily have 20 teams of the level of mayo tyrone donegal etc
