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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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MartyMcFly84

I'm not convinced. McGregor looked bad alright but I still don't think he beats Khabib in his best shape as things are. He might do better, but as I said you could say that about any number of fighters in any number of fights.

Aldo was(is) something special, never got a rematch with Conor.

If he leathers Cowboy, he at least gets a win. He needs that more than another fight with Khabib.

I dont think he is ready for Khabib yet. Would like Conor to have a couple of successful fights before that fight comes around. Khabib has not been active either however so cobwebs could be building there also. Granted he is not out on the session but time off effects fighters.

yourdeadwright

John_D80 wrote: »

Sorry if I wasn’t clear but I was saying that becoming extremely violent and commiting serious crimes such as murder is extremely rare. Of those who do sustain brain injuries like CTE, very very few do commit murder.

Ye I agree murder is rare but domestic assaults seem to be very common ,
Anyway all this has NOTHING to do with Cowboy himself so totally off topic,

yourdeadwright

Deleted User wrote: »

Is this from a study?

I actually listened to it on a podcast last year , I can't recall which one,

There have been loads of studies and articles written about this in the last few years ,

Obviously there is other factors but CTE for men in aggressive sports , NFL, combat sports , Wrestling , there is a growing trend of violence ,

We could all name boxer's involved in domestic violence from Ali to Mayweather, and if your knowledge of NFL is any good there is a HUGE amount of ex players involved in violent incidents

A massive issues is that in life lot of argument's happen with wife's and girlfriends so there is a huge number of domestic violence cases from CTE sufferer's

John_D80

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Firstly I agree the comment is tasteless and no dat to back it up on Cowboy ,

But becoming violent because of CTE is NOT uncommon for people who get it from high impact sports,

The violence comes because if you have CTE your brain knows it is hurt goes into flight or fight at the sign of any confrontation (sometimes very little) to protect it's self ,

For your average human (someone who gets CTE because of a fall or accident ) this turns to flight but for a Ex fighter or NFL player who spent years training to be aggressive in conflict the brain's natural reaction is to fight and defend its self from being further injured, Hence why you get moment of violence out of seemingly no where,

Again not saying Cowboy has CTE or would ever do anything to his family as that comment was tasteless and wrong ,

Sorry if I wasn’t clear but I was saying that becoming extremely violent and commiting serious crimes such as murder is extremely rare. Of those who do sustain brain injuries like CTE, very very few do commit murder.

[Deleted User]

yourdeadwright wrote: »

The violence comes because if you have CTE your brain knows it is hurt goes into flight or fight at the sign of any confrontation (sometimes very little) to protect it's self ,

For your average human (someone who gets CTE because of a fall or accident ) this turns to flight but for a Ex fighter or NFL player who spent years training to be aggressive in conflict the brain's natural reaction is to fight and defend its self from being further injured, Hence why you get moment of violence out of seemingly no where,
,

Is this from a study?

yourdeadwright

John_D80 wrote: »

Fine if that’s what was actually said, but it wasn’t.

CTE can manifest itself in many forms. Developing a propensity for extreme violence and committing serious crimes (ie: murdering ones family) as a result of suffering from CTE is rare.

Comment about Cowboy was in pretty poor taste in fairness.

Firstly I agree the comment is tasteless and no dat to back it up on Cowboy ,

But becoming violent because of CTE is NOT uncommon for people who get it from high impact sports,

The violence comes because if you have CTE your brain knows it is hurt goes into flight or fight at the sign of any confrontation (sometimes very little) to protect it's self ,

For your average human (someone who gets CTE because of a fall or accident ) this turns to flight but for a Ex fighter or NFL player who spent years training to be aggressive in conflict the brain's natural reaction is to fight and defend its self from being further injured, Hence why you get moment of violence out of seemingly no where,

Again not saying Cowboy has CTE or would ever do anything to his family as that comment was tasteless and wrong ,

Ush1

eagle eye wrote: »

Can you explain why you believe this?

As a previous poster said, he's trying to ignite something that doesn't exist anymore. Capturing lightening in a bottle.

He isn't Floyd Mayweather and doesn't live that sort of life.

Ush1

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

The fight wasn't close because it was probably the worst shape he has ever been in coming into a fight in his pro career, and against the next best guy in the world.

McGregor is something special. But hard work beats talent when talent doesnt work hard. Conor has the potential to be one of the P4P greats but it takes long term dedication and sacrifice. Probably has too many plates spinning and a family now to focus solely on fighting like he used to.

Like in Rocky 3 when Rocky looses to Clubber Lang. He needs to try and find that eye of the Tiger again... queue montage.

I'm not convinced. McGregor looked bad alright but I still don't think he beats Khabib in his best shape as things are. He might do better, but as I said you could say that about any number of fighters in any number of fights.

Aldo was(is) something special, never got a rematch with Conor.

If he leathers Cowboy, he at least gets a win. He needs that more than another fight with Khabib.

yourdeadwright

Effects wrote: »

It is a horrible comment. With little enough basis in reality.

I agree with you on this

Naked Lepper

hewhoscares wrote: »

From his coach thinking he's some savant genius while brown nosing some of the worse opinionators in american popular culture and being generally pithy and IAMVERYSMART so often, to pretty everything McGregor himself has done since what seems like forever
s

did you not know that he has a degree in engineering though?

Effects

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't think it's a huge stretch to suggest he might suffer from cte.

But it's a massive stretch to say he's a few punches away from murdering his family.

eagle eye

Ush1 wrote:

Conor likely will never get back to his best form

Can you explain why you believe this?

MartyMcFly84

Sea level Cain, full camp Mendes etc etc....

Conor likely will never get back to his best form and even if he did, still would likely be beat again. The fight wasn't close.

The fight wasn't close because it was probably the worst shape he has ever been in coming into a fight in his pro career, and against the next best guy in the world.

McGregor is something special. But hard work beats talent when talent doesnt work hard. Conor has the potential to be one of the P4P greats but it takes long term dedication and sacrifice. Probably has too many plates spinning and a family now to focus solely on fighting like he used to.

Like in Rocky 3 when Rocky looses to Clubber Lang. He needs to try and find that eye of the Tiger again... queue montage.

Ush1

Macdarack wrote: »

I do, as much as I despise Mc gregor I think if he's on top of his game he could take Khabib, he was way to rusty last time, slow, inaccurate! Weak etc. It would be some story for him to actually clean his act up by bateing cowboy, then Gaethje then Khabib. It's the only formula to his redemption and his legacy.

Sea level Cain, full camp Mendes etc etc....

Conor likely will never get back to his best form and even if he did, still would likely be beat again. The fight wasn't close.

John_D80

eagle eye wrote: »

Cowboy has taken a lot of head shots over the years and an awful lot in recent times.
I don't think it's a huge stretch to suggest he might suffer from cte.

Fine if that’s what was actually said, but it wasn’t.

CTE can manifest itself in many forms. Developing a propensity for extreme violence and committing serious crimes (ie: murdering ones family) as a result of suffering from CTE is rare.

Comment about Cowboy was in pretty poor taste in fairness.

eagle eye

Effects wrote:

It is a horrible comment. With little enough basis in reality.

Cowboy has taken a lot of head shots over the years and an awful lot in recent times.
I don't think it's a huge stretch to suggest he might suffer from cte.

LollipopJimmy

Macdarack wrote: »

I'm with you bud, I said it ages ago and I'll say it again,cowboy is a few punches away from murdering his family he should give it up.

Feckin hell. Unfollowing this thread now

Effects

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I think he is refereeing to the fact CTE causes people to become violent.

It is a horrible comment. With little enough basis in reality.

The Nal

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Obviously a huge stretch and a bit of a horrible comment , but I think he is refereeing to the fact CTE causes people to become violent ,
Look at all the cases of ex NFL players doing crazy **** after they retire,

MMA is very safe in comparison to American football or boxing in that regard. The damage there is done in training and sparring. Even in a heavy MMA sparring session theres way less headshots. Boxers can be hit hundreds of times in the head in a 36 minute sparring session.

chopperbyrne

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Obviously a huge stretch and a bit of a horrible comment , but I think he is refereeing to the fact CTE causes people to become violent ,
Look at all the cases of ex NFL players doing crazy **** after they retire,

Chris Benoit is the most high profile case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Benoit_double-murder_and_suicide

theballz

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Iv never been a big McGregor fan but it was clear as day he wasn't his normal self v Khabib ,
He didn't look sharp or fit i'd like to see them fight when Conor is fighting fit but the big IF is will we ever see Conor fighting fit and sharp again , Who knows ,

Styles make fights. Even Conor on his best day wouldn’t get past Khabib.

yourdeadwright

Effects wrote: »

What are you basing that on? And when he retires, are you still going to be spouting that kind of talk, waiting for it to happen?

Obviously a huge stretch and a bit of a horrible comment , but I think he is refereeing to the fact CTE causes people to become violent ,
Look at all the cases of ex NFL players doing crazy **** after they retire,

yourdeadwright

Iv never been a big McGregor fan but it was clear as day he wasn't his normal self v Khabib ,
He didn't look sharp or fit i'd like to see them fight when Conor is fighting fit but the big IF is will we ever see Conor fighting fit and sharp again , Who knows ,

Effects

Macdarack wrote: »

cowboy is a few punches away from murdering his family

What are you basing that on? And when he retires, are you still going to be spouting that kind of talk, waiting for it to happen?

Macdarack

Ush1 wrote: »

Who apart from McGregor wants to see the Khabib fight again? He got completely dealt with.

I do, as much as I despise Mc gregor I think if he's on top of his game he could take Khabib, he was way to rusty last time, slow, inaccurate! Weak etc. It would be some story for him to actually clean his act up by bateing cowboy, then Gaethje then Khabib. It's the only formula to his redemption and his legacy.

Ush1

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Dana says...

Conor McGregor on standby to face Khabib if Tony Ferguson fight is cancelled for fifth time, confirms UFC chief White
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/mma/10659151/mcgregor-khabib-ferguson-ufc-white/

comment on the reddit thread 'Will he face Tony if Khabib can’t make it?'
I'd definitely be more up for that fight than I am for the Cowboy one, not feeling it this time at all

Who apart from McGregor wants to see the Khabib fight again? He got completely dealt with.

Quantum Erasure

Dana says...

Conor McGregor on standby to face Khabib if Tony Ferguson fight is cancelled for fifth time, confirms UFC chief White
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/mma/10659151/mcgregor-khabib-ferguson-ufc-white/

comment on the reddit thread 'Will he face Tony if Khabib can’t make it?'
I'd definitely be more up for that fight than I am for the Cowboy one, not feeling it this time at all

eagle eye

Esse85 wrote:

We are only talking about the UFC here, this is a Conor Mcgregor thread, he fights in the UFC, other organisations have nothing to do with my point or this thread. Stick to the script please.

We are talking about elite fighters from the champ all the way down the rankings until we are scraping the barrell.

hewhoscares

Surprised at my apathy towards a McGregor fight. He is the reason I've been obsessed with boxing and MMA for the past five years It was his rise and confidence that hooked me in and put my down a YouTube rabbithole towards IFLTV for boxing and then you're emotionally invested in it all.

This fight is right from all angles as a comeback fight. CM has been so inactive and rusty and seemingly not living the life. Cerrone is a still a top end* 155er. He's got the highlight reel, the records, name and the record to sell the fight. He's took L's to some great fighters and got some great wins himself - yet seems stylistically perfect for McGregor tactically and he always seems to choke in the spotlight.

Gathje is maybe the 'right' fight rankings wise. But thats not fight you fancy Conor in as much and from the standpoint of promotionally and as part of building Conors star back. Cerrone is the way to go.

Maybe fightweek will get me more hyped with the pressers and media stuff but right now just so much of what interested me in Conor initally just leaves me disappointed. From his coach thinking he's some savant genius while brown nosing some of the worse opinionators in american popular culture and being generally pithy and IAMVERYSMART so often, to pretty everything McGregor himself has done since what seems like forever

* Maybe in boxing with the more diluted weightclasses it can be 2/3 or less 'elite' fighters but in MMA with the bigger jumps i think its fair to say more fighters are elite and even then certain weighclasses will be thin. 155 and 170 are not thin weightclasses

[Deleted User]

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Doubtful but I'd love if this Conor turned up. Absolute joy to watch.

And Mike Goldberg a joy to listen to.