badabing106 wrote: » Bush committed the worst crime a president could ever commit, going on a full scale war against a country on false pretences resulting in the death of hundreds of thousands of completely innocent people. This was a premeditated war crime was it not? Clinton got a blowjob and was impeached Why was what Bush did not an impeachable offense?
mooreman09 wrote: » Wrong on a few levels. /thread
RobbingBandit wrote: » It was in America best interest what Bush did what Clinton did wasn't even in his own best interest.
fly_agaric wrote: » Of course now they are all in lockstep supporting an individual who makes Clinton look like a choirboy
Boredstiff666 wrote: » If that is correct then you should be able to provide some examples of this?
fly_agaric wrote: » Fo you...no:pac:
Nody wrote: » Oh let's see, Stormy Daniels, affair while married? Check. Use of illegal bribes (campaign finance violations)? Check. Donald J. Trump Foundation? Used to illegally profit himself & family? Check. Or let me guess, the fact there are actual court rulings on the topics raised only proves deep state is out to get him?
Boredstiff666 wrote: » Well there you go. I am not a Trump supporter and knew basically sod all about him before he became president except he played golf and went to Studio 54 in the 70's. But all the constant ****e about him spouted in Ireland is an absolute joke. I reckon most people have no idea why they think Trump is so bad because they are exactly the same as sheep and just follow the next man. I remember when Clinton first got my attention. You should look up what happened to Ricky Ray Rector.
fly_agaric wrote: » Ultimately dealing with him is the US's problem. Would not be the type to be out rallying against him or something if he arrives in Doonbeg again. You protest a bit much I think, you must be interested enough in merits of Trump, & Clinton, US politics etc if you are going on about the Clinton Foundation & now dredging up a US execution from the 90s I had to google to see the relevance of. You also said Trump was the "dog's bollox" on another thread on here (although I suppose that could have been exaggeration to wind up the "sheep")...
Boredstiff666 wrote: » Yes I said that to gauge the reaction. But you then implied about the Don in a Clinton thread, but why? Point is Don has sod all to do with Ireland but a hotel and golf course. The Clintons are so deep here its unreal which at most is really sinister or at least is really wierd. Point is on the execution is the baggage which follows that family is non stop and has nothing to do with me or what I think...........so???????
fly_agaric wrote: » It seemed to me to suggest something about how divided US politics is. He is objectively less "fit" for the job he holds than Clinton. The Republican party should not have let him run to be chosen as their candidiate in the first place IMO (if they could have prevented that, my interest in US politics does not extend down to that level of detail about inner workings of the 2 parties). This is a George W. Bush thread really anway (why was he not impeached over Iraq war), so we should probably park it at this point? I'm sorry I ever brought up "the Don" as you call him. :pac:
Boredstiff666 wrote: » All of which has been done to the same and higher degree than most of the other US presidents and other world leaders. Look at the Clinton foundation for a start. But if the Don is guilty of all these crimes then how come he hasn't stood trial or been convicted? Whereas old Bill's baggage never stops following him around does it?
Nody wrote: » You are aware that his Foundation has been ordered by a court to shut down and that Trump is to personally pay in 2 million dollar to it, right? That is a conviction that's already in effect. Same goes for fraudulent campaign contributions by his lawyer; he's currently serving time for it and said he did it on order of his client, For the record cheating outside your marriage is not a crime; it's a civil case issue but you asked why Trump was worse than Clinton and all you could come up with "Well Hillary" defence of trying to deflect that someone else does something bad and hence Trump is somehow innocent because of that. Except that's now how reality works; no matter if Hilly was giving blowjobs to Bin Laden every night does it change the fact that Trump cheated on his then wife with a porn star, that his trust got shut down for abuse by the Trump family and that he personally was ordered to pay for it (and agreed to do so). So yes, Trump is worse than Clinton and if you want to actually try to bring up facts rather then deflection we might even have a discussion.
